Do you think Juan Manuel Marquez was/is juicing?

Read what I posted again. atsch

Pacquiao is undergoing RANDOM VADA testing

What is JMM doing?

This is considered actual proof as IT STANDS. Therefore, Pac = clean and JMM = Roidquez and he will forever be tainted in the eyes of many as a result

 

The way he kept coming back and getting more aggressive after being on the recieving end of manny's combinations were clearly signs of PEDs

The guy got more and more pumped up the harder he got hit and went into roid rage.

 

not sure

 

What if he waits three years after he's asked and then finally decides to undergo some extra testing ala Pacquiao? Is he "clean" then? :think

As it stands, there is no actual proof that either one has ever taken any PEDs... You can like it or not, but that's an irrefutable fact. :deal

 

The reason why his body improved in both looks and performance is because he started to lift weights properly.

Marquez didn't use weights before and now he does use it.

 

no

 

One fighter is proving that he's clean through random VADA testing
As for the other fighter, the writing is on the wall as Bradley said. Regardless, he will forever be tainted as a PED user by many (perception is still important)

 

Dinamita don need no juice to beat dat midget. He already beated dat midget FOUR tam

 

**** outta here nuthugger. Marquez was already hulking up for Pacquaio 3 and was full blown Hulk for the 4th fight.

http://cdn2.ringtv.craveonline.com/...cember/weighin_comparison_Marquez_3_and_4.jpg

Marquez SMASH!

 

SPIEGEL: What kind of relationship did you have with your athletes?

Heredia: Business ties. It was all about levels and dosing.

 

No, one fighter is undergoing VADA testing. How do you know he isn't on some undetectable **** or he wasn't roided up to his eyeballs before he finally decided to undergo additional testing 3+ years after he walked away from the biggest fight and payday of his career because he didn't want to undergo the tests? You don't. Like I said, what if JMM decides three years from no that he wants to "prove he's clean" by undergoing VADA testing? Would he then be completely vindicated? If not, why the double standard?

 

Just for the last fight

 

One pound difference. Where's all the "new" muscle he added with all these roids he's been taking? If I were him, I'd be demanding a full refund.

 

Based on what? Him adding a staggering one pound of muscle in just one short year, or him catching Pacquiao lunging in chin first with a perfectly timed right hand?

 

Based on the fact that people with eyes can see and compare him to what he looked like back when he first fought Pacquiao. And stop talking about his weigh-in weights -- that doesn't mean ****. How much did he weigh in the ring?