Arguello Vs Pryor I.With the punishment Aaron took, How did he do it?..Great Fight!!!

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  1. TheSouthpaw

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    The 2nd fight defiantly helped Pryors case comin in with a different trainer...After doin some research I CANNOT wrap my mind around what kind of PED's came in liquid form in that era, unless it was cocaine(which is possible)...But no doubt its on film Pryor did cheat so if he was bitchin about not gettin the respect he deserved that may have not been the smartest thing to do...But he was a great fighter.
     
  2. Ipay4leavingNot

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    Given he wasn't drug tested in the first fight who knows if he was drug tested the 2nd time round. And Marion Jones and Lance Armstrong show us that one can dope and beat the dope test. So what, he learned to cheat without Lewis. If someone is giving you a cheating strat so what if they leave you can still cheat. He was a cheater plain and simple

    I've seen Armstrong fights his pace doesn't match that of Pryors, frankly no fighter who wasn't later caught doping fought at his pace. Further these guys throw lots of shot but they are very different. They don't throw as hard as pryor does and not to the level that he does nor in the manner he does. Yes sure they are called windmills but so is marciano and frankly, marciano doesn't throw as much as someone like gamboa or pryor does. You can't just watch the highlights, watch the whole rounds.

    Pryor was conveniently not tested and of course you know this so you are just talking rubbish. He is a fighter who cheated, he had a mixed bottle, it is clear on the audio, you can't have a mix of anything in the ring and you can't drink it. Again read the previous post, it appears Lewis was mixing in asthma medicines, bronchial steroids and antihistamines to open up the lungs of his fighters.

    He went into the rematch so what, after your doped up and beat the **** out of a guy he may never be the same. We've all seen it happen. Pryor was a cheater. A cheater would do the rematch. He had a chip which is why he cheated he felt he never got enough credit so went out of his way to get it.

    Sorry, its not even close, show armstrong "swarming opponents" and put it side by side to pryor. You have one guy landing like de la hoya and the other landing mike tyson type shots for 15 rounds and not tiring. :lol: Marciano was called a windmill to, but he didn't not throw anything like pryor did. That kind of pace is not sustainable, none of the oldies fight like him.

    Exactly, it was cheating.

    Asthma medicines are in liquid form, they have steroids that give rapid relief, mix it in with something like glucose and you have a guy with more open lungs and more power and energy. And who knows how many rounds he was drinking mix for. There are tones of things, it could even had been adrenaline for all we know. How many substances can be used to give such type of instant advantages are endless. This is why only water is allowed. If you allow even milk, they could put in a dozen things in that milk.

    There are tonnes of way to beat the doping system, ask marion jones and lance armstrong. Not testing posistive when there is no drug test administered is not proof of not doping. It is proof of a widescale conspiracy where someone was paid to look the other way. When I boxed if someone tried to run away they'd be called, contacted, someone would show up at their door with a testing kit and if they refused they were disqualified. Pryor doped and people at the commission where likely in on it.

    How many rounds was he cheating for, who knows, for all we know lewis pulled stuffing out his glove like he did on restos.
     
  3. timmers612

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    The fact is Lewis was caught giving Pryor something and Resto believed he knew what it was and this taints the image of his career. Anything else is subjective and no one here- knows- anything otherwise, its conjecture.

    I saw most of Pryor's televised bouts live and his non stop movement reminded me of the film we have of Beu Jack, another fighter who was able to throw punches round after round non stop, and if Burt comes into this posting I would expect he could name others too. The indications from Pryor's golden glove days is he was a tireless performer then also.
     
  4. Nighttrain

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  5. TheSouthpaw

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    "Give me the one I mixed".


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  7. JLP 6

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    I have to disagree with this point.

    Armstrong never stopped punching and he hit much, much, more harder than Pryor and Arguello. I have watched at least 3 of his fights, probably more, with all the available rounds present. He was not a wild swarmer but, he was an in- your-chest-head and body-banger. After every round of hard infighting he would casually trott away amusingly, as if nothing special had just taken place.

    Armstrong fought like the Castilio Corrales I everytime he stepped in the ring.
     
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  8. TheSouthpaw

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    Great Armstrong point!:good
     
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    Ya Ive seen it..They couldnt have made it more obvious..But thanks for posting it for everyone to see!:-D
     
  10. ETM

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    Or the more likely scenario is that Pryor was just the better fighter plain and simple and you cannot accept that. The rest is just a bunch of drivel on your part.
     
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  11. Rspen46

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    Look at he punch Arguello threw that bent pryor's head so far back it touched his back, his head popped up and he laughs kinda crazy like and keeps coming, No, it was definitely something he had taken, no one here is an absolute expert on what you can and can't take that would help you take a punch, it can be done. That punch should have at the least put Pryor down, just as 7-8 others had done, even an old Cervantes did it. that's why he avoided anyone with power, that's why he never fought anyone at his own weight that was good, that was a natural JWw, he even somehow avoided unifiying the JWW title with Mamby, he did not want to fight anyone good, he took on Arguello for the cash and knowing he was over his best weight and over 30 and a slow flat footted, robotic type fighter, perfect for him. He let Duran's offer expire with no answer as he moved up to WW, he turned down 2 offers from Leonard, 1 was not enough so they upped it and he turned that down, who cares, for $750,000 fight him, you believe you can win, then do it and write you own paychecks from then on, but he did not. he also ran away from a stacked LW division when ring mag had him ranked as high as #3 WHY? it was stacked and the JWW sucked, LOL!, Pryor had a weak chin, had terrible balance, was the dumbest fighter in the ring as he was dumb as a rock, great guy, but dumb, so no ring generalship to speak up, he hti hard with both hands, but not a 1 Punch KO guy. he cheated Alexis from victory and by the time they fought again, Alexis was a beaten fighter before he stepped in the ring, his heart and soul to win it were gone, they stole that in the 1st fight. the only fight he was even clean in was against B. Joe Young and you saw how that one ended, that's how many of his fights would have gone if he had not been on something in 99% of his fights.
     
  12. The Morlocks

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    There was this guy on a grassy knool outside the stadium that shot a rock of methamphetamine thru a straw into Pryors mouth in rd 13 when his head kicked back from Arguello s right hand howitser. At the 1 minutes rest a special mix of hot tati and ovellteen was mixed by lewis which then dissolved the rock stuck on PRYOR s uvula. Wallah!!! Instant energy and victory for Pryor and his apparently close doper homosexual friend and homie RSPEN46. Or maybe 69. Wink. Wink. NOW YOU KNOW THE REST OF THE STORY.
     
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  13. JohnThomas1

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    How would you rate your impartiality in rating Pryor on a 1-10 scale Rich with 1 being a HATER and 10 being a NUTHUGGER?
     
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  14. The Morlocks

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    LMAO!!!!!!!!
     
  15. HOUDINI

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    I was a huge Arguello fan going back to the 70’s. I also watched all of Pryors bouts as he was a TV favorite and all his bouts once he hit the limelight were shown live on network TV. Pryor had a porous defense and was decked numerous times only to later overwhelm his opponents.

    Going in I felt no way does Pryor not get koed. Arguello had one punch KO power, intelligent, always perfectly conditioned. Pryor so open defensively.

    Pryor fooled everyone. He came into this fight showing constant head movement and throwing combos at odd angles as he stepped around the more static Arguello. Arguello had real trouble landing his KO punches and when he did connect Pryor did not crumble.

    Arguello seemed to surge in the round before he was stopped landing what appeared to be his hardest blows of the fight. However Pryors trainer asked for the bottle “he mixed” prior to the fight and Pryor drank some. Pryor come out for the next round refreshed and he then surged for the KO victory.