watching Canelos live work out

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Macwitdacheese, Aug 27, 2013.


  1. TJ Max

    TJ Max Boxing Addict Full Member

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    For a guy that talks so much about angles, you clearly don't know **** about angles.

    How can you compare Marquez who is the same height as Pacquaio, but gets lower than Pacquaio to Mayweather who fights with a completely different style.

    One has to punches up to hit Pacquaio, and one punches down. Given Marquez short stature, that he makes even shorter due to his style, how do you expect him to land a left uppercut, especially considering Marquez NEVER steps forward with his back foot after throwing his right hand?

    Does that make any sense to you?

    Additionally, Marquez uses constant rotation and pivoting, while Mayweather does not.

    You do realize one boxer is not the other, right?

    One puts himself in position to get hit with that punch and the other doesn't.

    Maybe you should actually watch instead of speculate.
     
  2. And you says this because of what
     
  3. bfaison

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    again like I said we can do this all day, but how many shorter fighters has floyd been countered with an uppercut by whilst doing that? none. Taller fighters? none. Anyone at all? NONE Therefore the angle must obviously be correct to not be hit. And in regard to the pivoting, you cant be serious sayin floyd doesnt pivot. He actually spins around the opponent making them reposition their entire body after throwing the punch if you watch anytime he does it while attempting to avoid incoming thats what he does every single time. He throws it ducks at an angle either under the punch or outside the punch's reach at an angle and spins around either to their side or an a new angle. you tell me how you land an uppercut on a target when you have one hand either in a punch at him, or you got surprised with the punch, or the angle is not there to throw it proficiently. You cant do it with effectiveness and thats why it hasnt been done yet. Not saying its impossible, because its not, you have to catch him on his way in, because if your getting hit with it, it's already too late. His footwork is superior to that of marquez's who has to throw a punch to change his opponents angles, floyd can simply be in a defnsive posture and do it while either setting up a punch, moving around eying you, or evading your punches. And like you stated earlier, if floyd sees hes getting countered he will adapt like he did to judah, change tactics and do something you dont expect, so in the end it dont matter if he did get hit with 1 or 2, if they dont ko him, which it more than likely wouldnt than it will have been too late; the ad******g has already begun.
    Actually i give you this as a parting gift, the closest person to ever land one now that im thinking about this is probably Ortiz because he close enough to the ropes to leave floyd with no place to go after launching...wait I take that back because floyd wasn't throwing a straight right, it was an overzealous uppercut of his own that actually landed but ortiz walked through it and countered because floyd was near the ropes. So nevermind.
     
  4. Mr Pibb

    Mr Pibb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :good

    droppin some knowledge on that as.s
     
  5. Mr Pibb

    Mr Pibb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    you have more imagination than you do manhood.:lol:
     
  6. billvp

    billvp Guest


    Who the **** is going to read that wall of text?