Oliver McCall Appreciation Thread

Was he? I did some research on him as well and didn't find that to be the case. Guy was like a Sherman tank. But you may have stumbled over some stuff that I overlooked So I'll take your word for it.

 

Underrated, and did not completely lack skill.

 

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Eh....I hope this isn't serious.

This guy was used as a stepping stone/gate keeper for pretenders and real contenders alike for most his career. "Congratulations, you beat Olvier McCall, tough ******* wasn't he, welcome to the top 10!" But to his credit, he scored one massive upset for a title belt over a future all time great. After one closetly contested lackluster defense against a 46 year old Larry Holmes, he gave Frank Bruno his only day in the sun, and was back to the fringe within a year.

 

These cats are no Orlin Norris or Mike Hunter, that's for sure.

Well, he upset Lennox Lewis with one punch so there's always a chance he can land the money punch against anybody, but to outright favor him would be a huge overestimate of his acutal abilities based off that single fight. While he found his mark against the more reckless pre-Stewart Lewis, that one big punch eluded him against the likes of so many less than stellar boxers. The labels "fluke" or "one hit wonder" are generalized cliches, but sometimes the glove just fits.

Sorry, but Lewis is the only win the guy has you can really trump as something special. And there's only so much mileage you can squeeze out of an upset knockout like that. Beyond his legendary chin, the rest of his career is incredibly unremarkable.

 

Very durable with something of a sparring partner's mentality, imo.

 

Even if we subbed McCall in for those guys at the times of those fights, I'm not sure he's pulling off all those upsets. That's a tall order. Nor does he have the specific skills or tools to replicate the success of certain fighters you named.

McCall was actually the Paulino Uzcudn of his day more than anything. I think you could sub those two for each other, and it would produce similar results.

Both beat an old legend and upset a future undisputed Champion, both were s famous for their durability and power, and both mostly lost to quality opponents. Lewis>Baer but point stands, nobody is arguing Paulino as a top 50 all time great.

 

McCall was actually the Paulino Uzcudn of his day more than anything. I think you could sub those two for each other, and it would produce similar results.

-Calling a guy the modern Paulino Uzcudin isn't exactly an insult. The Atomic Bull and the Basque Woodchopper are kindred spirits. Now The Woodchopper didn't cry in his only stoppage loss, but perhaps if he was on crack/cocaine he might have.

 

I think that's an astute comment. :good

 

This surprises me.

I always assumed that Frank had a doctorate of modern and historical literature, because of his grasp of the English language and knowledge of historical aspects of the sport. I guess it just goes to show that you cant beat learning through the good old school of hard knocks.

 

How does everyone think that McCall's iron chin would have served him if all his fights were finish fights. Would it have helped or hindered his career?