How Would You Manage GGG's Career?

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  1. NewBoxingOrder

    NewBoxingOrder Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So, if you were the promoter/manager for Gennady Golovkin, how would you steer his career?

    GGG is 27-0 (24) and clearly appears to be a rising star in the sport, primarily because of his punching power. The unbeaten record likely isn't hurting him any, either.

    To that end, I would be wise in how I would match Golovkin going forward. In particular, I would probably keep him away from the larger Andre Ward. Ward is likely to be heading to 175 lbs soon, whereas there has been talk of Golovkin going down to 154 lbs. In short, Ward seems to be too large for Golovkin and Ward is likely not worth the risk.

    Additionally, Ward has never been regarded as much of a draw. Which means the risk/reward ratio becomes even more unfavorable for GGG and his camp.

    I know GGG has said he would love to fight Floyd Mayweather, but I don't think anyone actually believes that fight will ever take place.

    I think GGG's team is doing a good job of keeping him busy at this time. Get him more exposure and let the boxing public fall in love with his KO power. Although many fans appreciate the skills of the sweet science, the casual fan loves the KO. I think this is one of the reasons why the UFC was doing as well as it did for awhile, although now many of the fighters there seem to be fighting to win on points as the sport apparently simultaneously declines in popularity.

    I think HBO and GGG's team know they have a potential star on their hands. And that's good.

    GGG is the right person in the right place at the right time. With the HBO/Golden Boy fallout, the network needs marketable stars to fill the void. GGG can be such a star, I think, if he is put in the proper positions and if he is wisely matched.

    Keep GGG at 160 or go to 154, let Ward find his way to 175 and then go from there. That would be my strategy if I were promoting GGG.

    If Golovkin is handled properly, he won't need to face anyone to be a draw. He and his power can be the draw for any fight he enters.
     
  2. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    I think GGG is the real deal and regardless with who he's matched up against win or lose he'll continue to be marketable. He doesn't strike me as just a fan friendly puncher he's got serious skills and is a serious threat to even the bigger Andre Ward tho Ward would be favored. If I had doubts about GGG of course I'd carefully match him, this game is about $$$ afterall, but from what it looks like GGG is more than ready for the big time. I wouldnt hesitate one moment to get him to unify 160, use that as leverage, and get Floyd/Canelo at 154. Ward would be for last, once GGG has had 2-3 fights at 168. GGG can go all the way up to 175.
     
  3. NewBoxingOrder

    NewBoxingOrder Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm not sure about that. But maybe. He seems a bit small to me even at 160.

    I do think he's the real deal. But I think because of the timing on HBO and because of his power, his career could be even more exceptional if it's handled correctly.

    Right guy, right time.
     
  4. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    have him fight as often as possible.
     
  5. Farmboxer

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    I would try to get the other middleweight champions to fight Golovkin, as I think he would knock them all out. As far as Ward, he is afraid to fight Kovalev, someone his own size. Ward is a 175 lb. boxer, not really 168, but his problem is that he will only fight in his hometown with his referee and judges. Before Ward fights Kovalev, I would like to see him fight Froch in a rematch outside his home town.

    I don't think Golovkin can get any of the other middleweight champions to fight him. I dont' blame them. However, Stevens is a good start as he did knock out an unranked fighter in his last fight on national TV which look impressive, so that fight is better than nothing. Perhaps TV will get a fight with Quillin, Martinez, or some other champion after that? I won't hold my breath though...........
     
  6. DoubleM

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    clean out 160 then andre ward showdown.
     
  7. Farmboxer

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    I agree, but I keep hearing that Ward will go up to 175 and fight Kovalev.........
     
  8. NewBoxingOrder

    NewBoxingOrder Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I have a lot of respect for Ward, but I don't see any upside or need for GGG to fight him. Especially not right now. If I were his team, I would just continue to build GGG's profile up and keep him busy. With his power and record, and HBO's need for new stars, that should be more than plenty to make GGG an even bigger commodity.
     
  9. Farmboxer

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    Yes, I agree............
     
  10. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    Yea I know what you mean, easy money to be made, but I think that can be counterproductive for a fighter sometimes by being matched up with a certain type of fighter and then once those run out or the public demands a fight with a fighter much different in style upsets are bound to happen. But yea, totally agree he's the right guy at the right time. As long as he's hungry and doesn't get overconfident a Tszyu-Phillips like scenerio hopefully won't happen. He might seem short for maybe 168 and 175, but he seems to have a long reach for 160 and seems crafty and strong enough to handle himself just fine. Word is he handled the mighty Kovalev well in sparring. I think he'd do well. Figyts with Bute and Chavez Jr would sell very well.
     
  11. NewBoxingOrder

    NewBoxingOrder Well-Known Member Full Member

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    From a fan's perspective, this would be great. From a Team Golovkin's perspective, though, I just don't see why you would do it. What's the upside?

    You have a fighter with a perfect record with big power who seems to be building as a draw already. Why risk that on a fighter who is big, tough but not a great draw? You're just putting your own drawing power in the future at risk.

    I'm sure it's not lost on Team GGG that the people who seem most intent on GGG fighting Ward are also the people saying GGG is a fraud. As in, those people aren't looking to do GGG any favors.
     
  12. NewBoxingOrder

    NewBoxingOrder Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Good points.

    Personally, if the guy can make 154 right now, I would send him down there if not a lot of people want to fight him at 160. You can always move up as his career goes on, but it becomes much harder to move down later on.
     
  13. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    this is the dilemma.

    if golovkin wants to be a legend, he has to take and win fights where he's supposed to lose. if he wants to hang around for a while and make lots of money, he shouldn't.
     
  14. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    Exactly. Thing is he just needs a big, impressive win to unify at least 2/3 of the belts to at least have some leverage. Quillin and Maravilla at the moment not interested tho. :D
     
  15. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He is a career 160lbs guy, he should try to clean up 160lbs become Undisputed and keep making titlte defenses, until Hagler, Hopkins & Monzon accept him as the Greatest Middle weight of all time...Or lose trying to achieve that goal

    GGG will not be effective North of 160lbs, Hagler moved down to 160 & stayed there. He should learn from the best