What happens if Canelo takes away Floyd's "jab to the body?"

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  1. TJ Max

    TJ Max Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Really?

    In what fight?

    The Trout fight was close, but don't confuse gameness for desperation.
     
  2. Ricky369

    Ricky369 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The way I see it Floyd will hit Canelo whenever Floyd wants. So, if Canelo wants to win this fight he has to to hit more often than Floyd and harder. I would like him use his left hook early and often. Every time Floyd uses the shoulder roll just step to the right and put at least two hook on Floyd's left shoulder. Hopefully by round 6 Floyd would be unable to use that hand. Of course, its easier said than done. But if I was going to fight Floyd, that would be my plan. Stepping to your right will make it harder for Floyd to hit you with his own right. And don't worry about his face. Just bang the **** out of that shoulder.
     
  3. Mr Pibb

    Mr Pibb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ciannabuns does not protect well against bodyshots.Just look at the Trout fight.

    He keeps a nice runway right down the middle.:hi:

    If you really think he's plugged-up all those holes in his defense just in time for September 14th then good luck with that.


    A jab to the body is a draining punch...you can down play it all you like.

    Name ONE fighter that stop Floyd's belly-jab.....name ONE.:think
     
  4. Mr Pibb

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    Cinnabuns picks his head up when he throws his left hook.

    It's the most telegraphed punch in the entire sport.:deal
     
  5. TJ Max

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    Floyd couldn't hit Victor Ortiz whenever he wanted, especially when Victor was on the back foot.

    And that's squared up, limited defense, Victor Ortiz.

    So do you think Floyd is exponentially better, had an off night or Canelo is easier to hit?

    I think Canelo's boxing ability will surprise you if you think Floyd will land whenever Floyd wants.

    This is a formidable opponent, who does not get hit clean often and is very accurate with his punches.
     
  6. illwill007

    illwill007 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes, in the Trout fight he showed signs of being unsettled. Not gameness, when one is winging crazy shots. I don't confuse anything. No bias in watching that fight from me. I saw what I saw.
     
  7. illwill007

    illwill007 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Is a fighter supposed to land every punch? He was hitting Ortiz pretty much at will.
     
  8. Ricky369

    Ricky369 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Just one little point. Not calling the boxers by the proper names just take credibility away from your comments. Calling a fighter something that you would not say to their faces makes you look like a keyboard warrior. Just saying...

    Now, that said. As good as Trout is, he isn't even close to Floyd's level. I agree he will connect the jab and the lead right to the body often. The only thing is Floyd will not last forever. And this kid has the best chances of beating Floyd than anybody in like 10 years. Cotto is better boxer than Canelo. But Cotto was way past his prime. DLH was also better than Canelo. Also fought FLoyd way past his prime. Still both did look pretty good against Floyd.
     
  9. Ricky369

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    You should not take every comment literally. Yeah.....Canelo will pass some punches. He will not take them all. But this is not Trout. Even more, Floyd is not and overweight, out of his weightclass, undisciplined Cotto's brother. I had not favorites in this fight. But I will like to see someone beat FLoyd. I hope Canelo can do it. But I think it will depend on how much Floyd has in the tank.
     
  10. Ricky369

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    Lift his head? True. Most telegraphed?? I have seen way worst.
    They should work that int he gym. Remember, I say its easier said than done!!
    Stepping to the right when Floyd is doing his shoulder roll might be a way to avoid Floyd's right. But he has to be fast. I am not blind. I know its FLoyd we are talking about here.
     
  11. TJ Max

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    The jab to the body is a good punch because it sets up other punches and causes your opponent to reset.

    It is a draining punch, but its not the punch itself, it's the way Floyd uses the punch.

    Floyd's intellect is the reason he's the best, not his "jab to the body."

    And Floyd hasn't fought anyone with the dimensions or the ability to take away the "jab to the body," since DLH.

    I think Canelo will use the same patient approach that DLH used, to slowly suffocate Mayweather, and make Mayweather throw more punches than he is normally accustomed to.
     
  12. Ricky369

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    Yes he was. Unfortunately the way the fight ended took away from what Floyd was doing. People seems to forget Ortiz headbutt came out of frustration because he couldn't do **** against Floyd.
     
  13. TJ Max

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    I don't think you should take too much from that fight. Trout was a long tall southpaw who is quick with his body, and can box.

    Canelo didn't want to risk jumping right in because it would give Trout the opportunity to counter.

    Floyd doesn't present the same angle, but he's probably as fast or perhaps faster with his body movement, but he is also smaller.

    Some say Trout is quicker with his movement. I'm not so sure of that.
     
  14. Mr Pibb

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    Canelito doesn't have Oscar's dimensions or talent.

    Oscar didnt use a very patient approach....he tried to jump floyd on the ropes and almost got dropped.

    Check out the 5th round.

    Cinnabuns' defense doesn't take his body into account...he's too busy TRYING to be slick.

    Just look how easilly Trout landed on Canelito's body.
    It's the reason he was so gassed-out.
     
  15. illwill007

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    You said 'Canelo isn't an impatient fighter', and I said that 'I have seen footage to suggest otherwise', it's there in the Trout fight, where Canelo was throwing wild shots at times. Is that not evidence of impatience?