Was Manny Smart or Dumb For Turning Down Floyds 40 Mil Guarantee?

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  1. Mr Pibb

    Mr Pibb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not only that.

    Arum wanted Floyd to fight Hatton(and Cotto) for LESS than Margarito

    8 mil for Tony and 6 for Hatton.....seems backwards to me.
     
  2. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    As we see how mannys career has gone since yes it was a bad move... But 40m flat no ppv is a pretty stingy deal... But again if he wanted something better he could have had 5050 split with his choice of gloves and ring size. All he had todo was agree to testing
    (Which he now has no problem with)
     
  3. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    He also captured the lineal title from
    Baldomir for beating him... Something marg did not
    Have
     
  4. Mr Pibb

    Mr Pibb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If the tables were turned and Baldo held the WBO crap-strap and Tony held 3 titles....Margarito would have got the Mayweather fight.
     
  5. HoldMyBeer

    HoldMyBeer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    titles don't mean ****. who you fought and when do.
    margarito 'beat' cotto, got done for cheating, and then lost 3 of his next 4 fights
     
  6. punisher

    punisher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I would have to say it was a "dumb" move, since he could've made $40 million there, and if he won, perhaps given a rematch and made at least the same or more (with PPV included that time), then went on to face Marquez again (or a showcase bout), then retired if he chose. If he lost to Mayweather, he would have made $40 million and still had the Marquez option, which was the next best option for him. Sometimes, you have to know when to fold 'em.

    Although, I think if he had accepted the $40 million there would have probably been some other little detail regarding the testing, which would have been a hinderance. And I think Bob Arum would've found a way to make that an issue or something else. That's BEFORE he got laid out by JMM though. At this point, I'd be surprised if he gets another chance at that fight.
     
  7. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    62.34% agree, Manny is dumb. :yep
     
  8. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    It was a complete Joke by Floyd, and it showed the world exactly what his real intentions were on making the fight.

    For three years, Floyd had been shouting "take the test!"

    He even walked around in t shirts that had it printed on the front.


    Then in 2012, Manny gave in.

    He agreed to be tested at any point up unitl the day of the fight, and agreed the smaller percentage.


    You would have assumed that Floyd would have been happy by this. He'd finally been given what he'd originally wanted.

    But no.

    Floyd then offered Manny a guaranteed $40m, but wanted to claim what would have been left over from the entire PPV money.


    Floyd's fight with Oscar generated $130m in PPV revenue in 2007.


    Floyd's fight with Manny would have smashed that, because the PPV price would have been significantly higher, and there probably would have been more interest.

    It was reported that the fight had realistic expectations of grossing between $200m-$300m.

    So it was a complete joke of an offer by Floyd.


    People always say "Manny was stupid, because he couldn't earn anywhere near that amount."

    Although that's true, he was NEVER going to accept those ridiculous terms, and watch Floyd make THREE times or more, the money that he'd been paid.


    It was done in my opinion, for two reasons.


    1. To make it look as though Floyd had tried to make the fight.


    2. To actually avoid from having to take the fight.


    Nobody in Manny's position would have agreed to that.


    That should be 100% confirmation that Floyd never wanted the fight in the first place.


    He'd gotten what he'd wanted, he could have had the bigger share, but it wasn't enough.

    Nothing would ever have been good enough for Floyd.
     
  9. DABOZ

    DABOZ Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Manny = dumb millionaire

    Floyd = rich coward
     
  10. lester proctor

    lester proctor Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You're wrong about this. Floyd offered 40m for Pac to split with Top Rank, as he's under contract. It's usually said Arum's minimum is 27%. That means Pac's share is 29m, like a 10% raise over his normal purse. That's not just a bad deal, it's insulting, and probably meant as such
     
  11. DABOZ

    DABOZ Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Floyd is only making $40M fighting Canelo, the amount he offered Pacquiao.

    The fact that Pacquiao is an easier fight.

    Smart move by Pacquiao.
     
  12. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    this :good
     
  13. critix

    critix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    3rd option doens't make sense because both are on record saying that yes 40 mil was offered. Manny admitted it so did Floyd
     
  14. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  15. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    if pac had accepted the 40mil., floyd would have added another crazy demand like pac has to leave top rank and sign with TMT.

    floyd did not want the fight.