Why does Floyd Mayweather fail to stop most of his opponents?

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  1. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Marquez was the last person to stop Pac.:yep

    The last person Pac stopped was Cotto. And it was on accumulation, not because of his "Pac Power" :lol:
     
  2. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Freedom, you seem to imply that Pacquiao is better than Mayweather because he has more knockouts. How many knockouts you have is not a good indicator of how good you are as a fighter. I mean, look at Wilder. All of his wins have come by knockout, but his opponents have been TERRIBLE.
     
  3. freedom2013

    freedom2013 Boxing Junkie banned

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    Most people would agree a fight is more exciting and decisive when it doesn't go to the judges.

    Pacquiao has stopped some of the very same people Floyd has gone the distance with, such as Cotto and De La Hoya.

    Floyd couldn't stop an older, more faded version of Cotto than Pacquiao fought.
     
  4. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That works in reverse too.

    Floyd made Marquez his *****. Pacquiao struggled with Marquez 3 times, and got knocked out in his fourth fight with him.
     
  5. -GhettoWizard-

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    It's not Mayweather's style, he also has brittle hands. Did you see his hands after the Guerrero fight? They were a mess, and it happened right when he was trying to go for the KO around the 8th
     
  6. freedom2013

    freedom2013 Boxing Junkie banned

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    Pacquaio is faded now, he defeated JMM twice when he was prime.

    Floyd is much bigger than Marquez, yet he wasn't able to stop him. Pacquiao has stopped bigger men than himself, like De La Hoya.
     
  7. -GhettoWizard-

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    pac was bigger than dlh fight night wasnt he
     
  8. freedom2013

    freedom2013 Boxing Junkie banned

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    No, Oscar was MUCH bigger, it looked like a full-grown man fighting a child. But the child put a bad beating on the full-grown man.
     
  9. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    i think his point proves that floyd has pop in his punches, but his defensive style will always lower his ratio. though i feel around 7-8th round he really tries to close the show after he has you timed , worried and figured out

    pac gets credit for knocking out cotto but the delahoya fight he was so drained it was stupid (oscars fault)
     
  10. -GhettoWizard-

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    dlh looked like a full grown zombie.

    ps pacquiao had the weight advantage. just checked that now. read the comments lol ppl even saying dlh looked drained and tiny
     
  11. aramini

    aramini Boxing Addict Full Member

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    brittle hands and wrists are the only explanation you need: he CAN hit really hard, and as soon as he does he hurts himself. This is why Pac's 8 inch wrist, regardless of whether he's "stronger" than Floyd, allow him to batter people all night - he never hurts his hands or his wrists (or at least, very rarely). As soon as Floyd hits hard, he winces. NOTHING he can do about this - his skeleton is fragile in the wrists and hands. Sometimes he loads up his whole body behind a punch (the Ndou fight) and his hands hold up. Most of the time they don't.
     
  12. aramini

    aramini Boxing Addict Full Member

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    anecdotal evidence is terrible, but when I was fighting amateur I was a strong physical guy for the low weights with a very fragile skeleton, with wrists about 5.7 inches or so then.

    If I knew I was getting hurt or losing, I would start punching as hard as I could in the hopes that they would crumble before my wrists gave out - every time I actually used my full force I damaged or fractured my wrist. (this is why I could be huge at 128 pounds - a skeleton without density). In a 12 round fight, you cant risk hurting your wrists or hand and hope to survive - it's bad enough for 3 rounds.

    Floyd clearly has the same biomechanical problem - a fairly strong guy whose body won't support hard impact in certain places.
     
  13. markq

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    "Fail to stop?" It's only a fail if that is your aim. It's not his modus-operandi. I seriously doubt Floyd looks to KO anybody. Just as Magic Johnson didn't go for scoring titles when he could have been a prolific scorer. Look how many brain cells JMM killed in the KTFO6, probably more killed in that one shot than Floyd's entire career. Floyd is a professor in the ring and a sound defense is a part of it. He's not out to prove he's the king of the hill brute.
     
  14. Symphenyceo

    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Name some guys he hasnt had hurt in there since baldomir. He has hurt everyone in there at least once. Had Hoya hurt in the 5th at 154. He hurts these guys, he doesnt push for the KO when he has them hurt though.
     
  15. Kid Cincinnati

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