In an earlier era, could J. Calzaghe have fought at 160, with a same day weigh in?

Yes, I'm afraid it's another Calzaghe thread.

The 535th thread on Joseph, just within the last 6 months.

My deepest apologies.


This is not a thread hating on Joe, I just merely want the question answering.


As we all know, Joe was a great fighter, and possibly the greatest 168 fighter of all time.


Joe turned pro in 1993, and retired in 2008 after a very good/great career.


However, if Joe had've turned pro in an earlier era, before the introduction of the 168 division, I believe he would have fought at 175.

Joe was 6ft, and walked around naturally between 196-200 pounds.

He always found it hard to make 168, and in his his final few years there, he literally had to starve himself in the last week of camp.

When he eventually moved up to 175 in his final year, his camps were great, because he ate better, and he didn't have to lose as much weight.

I actually think that he'd have been stronger as a 175 fighter.


But again, in an earlier era, before the introduction of 168 division, Joe would have been faced with the option of either fighting at 160 or 175.

The first CW division wasn't introduced until 1979.


So, as per the title,


In an earlier era, could Joe have fought at 160, that INCLUDED a same day weigh in?


I'm certain that it wouldn't have been possible.


Regards, Loudon.

 

I agree.

If by some miracle he could have made 160, he wouldn't have been in any fit state to fight.

Thanks! :good

 

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I agree.

I think he should have gone up in 2003, when the Ottke fight didn't happen.

 

Ha!

For once we finally agree on something!

I've got to treasure this, because it'll probably never happen again.

 

I have to apologise, because as far as I'm concerned, it's a stupid question to ask.

But I'll tell you why I've asked it.

A few weeks ago, Foxy 01, who's a passionate Roy Jones hater, was baiting me, and asking how Roy would have fared against the great LHW's of the past. So I turned the tables on him, and asked how Joe would have fared against them?

He then got very defensive, and said Joe wasn't a LHW, as he'd only had two fights there. So I informed him that Joe could have fought at LHW earlier than he did, and I also informed him that if Joe had've turned pro in an earlier era, he would had to have fought at LHW.

He asked me why, and I informed him that the SMW division wasn't introduced until the 80's, so Joe would have been faced with the option of either fighting at MW or LHW. Although MW obviously wouldn't have been a viable option, especially with a same day weigh in.

He then asked me how I knew, and I explained that Joe was 6ft, he walked around naturally between 196-200 pounds, and he'd always had a hard time making SMW. His response to this, was to hurl obscenities around, as well as asking me why he couldn't have made it, when Hopkins could, and he was taller than Joe.

He's adamant that Enzo would have boiled him down to MW, and the LHW's would have been too big for him to fight.

So I asked him to start a thread. But he wouldn't. Instead I just received more obscenities.

So I thought I'd start the thread myself, even though I appreciate it's stupid.

Thanks for your input.

If you wish to see our discussion (if you can call it that) it's on the thread titled - Why do so many people diss Joe Calzaghe?

 

I respect your opinion.

Maybe when he was very young, he could possibly have made it, but never with a same day weigh in.

If you go back to 93 when he turned pro, maybe.

But in the 70's and 80's, with a same day weigh in, no chance.

It wouldn't have been worth the risk, even if it had've been physically possible.

He'd surely have been in no condition to fight.

 

Fair point, but every fighter is different.

Again, the key point is the same day weigh in.

If we had same day weigh ins today, would Chavez Jnr fight at MW?