ricardo lopez was a better than floyd mayweather. ?

I rate Ricardo ahead of Morales, Barrera, and Marquez clearly.

Def not anywhere close to being Floyd Mayweather.

 

no way in hell you can rank RL over any of those guys with amount of no names he fought just as a champion.....

these names impress you? :rofl

Pretty Boy Lucas 27-2-2 (coming off loss)
Morgan Ndumo 10-2-1 (coming off loss)
Myung-Sup Park 11-4-0 (lost 3 of 6)
Javier Varguez 37-16-1 (16 losses)
Manny Melchor 25-19-4 (19 losses)
Toto Pongsawang 4-0-0 (4 wins)
Kitichai Preecha 7-3-0 (7 wins)
Kwang-Soo Oh 6-0-0 (6 wins)
Kimio Hirano 9-3-3 (9 wins)
Hideyuki Ohashi 14-3-0
Kyung-Yung Lee 20-1-0
Singprasert Kittikasem 10-2-1
Rocky Lin 14-0-0
Surachai Saengmorakot 10-0-0
Yamil Caraballo 13-4-1
Mongkol Charoen 20-1-0
Ala Villamor 29-1-1

these guys were respectable opponents
Saman Sorjaturong 15-1-1
Kermin Guardia 21-0-0
Andy Tabanas 30-2-0

but they were not on the level of JMM, Morales, MAB who fought each other as opponents.....

 

In fairness to Lopez, Melchor, Ohashi, and Lee were all titlists at the weight. Lucas, Villamor, Lin, and Pongsawang were considered legitimate contenders at the weight. It wasn't a deep division at all, but by and large, Finito fought the best available fighters at 105. It would have been nice to see him move up a bit sooner, since there were marquee names like Carbajal and Gonzalez available to bolster his legacy.

 

Sounds like a large majority of posters on this site never actually watched Lopez fight. He was masterful in the ring with moves every bit as subtle and impressive as Floyd. Clearly one of the best technicians of the last 25 years. He held the title forever, and never lost in the ring into his mid 30s (which is very rare for that weight class). Even more amazing is his high knockout ratio for someone of his diminutive stature. Most of these knockouts came from perfectly placed punches after a sustained beatdown. I agree his list of opponents isn't exactly that of SRR or the Fab 4 from the 80s, but he beat all available competition at his weight. And he destroyed Saman Sorjaturong in two rounds. The same Sorjaturong who would go on to knock out Hall of Famer Humberto Gonzalez about a year later. So before anyone on this site questions the greatness of Finito Lopez, I hope they at least take the time to watch his fights, and not just rely on BOXREC to learn about him.

 

Excellent post. I loved watching Lopez! Poetry in motion.

 

Floyd may have beaten fighter we've heard of BUT he also DUCKED the fighters he should have been fighting, that we have also heard of.
As far as the better resume ? Ricardo Lopez wins hands down. Floyd isn't fit to carry his jockstrapatsch

 

C.mon Nonito fess up You are really Lenard Ellerbee aint ya????

 

Ricardo Lopez was as close to a perfect boxer as you're going to get(at least in my lifetime). THe guy was a master at offense and defense, great chin, power, stamina, skills. Great fun to watch.

 

he didnt fight all the best availiable because the best had belts too...and he never unified 105...not one time..... he apparently fought the 5th, 6th, 7th best most of the time....the 2nd, 3rd, 4th would be WBA, IBF, WBO belt holders...

In fairness to Lopez, Melchor, Ohashi, and Lee were all FORMER CHAMPIONS....had he fought current champions from the other ABCs then it would be worth talking about

 

I think the one disappointing thing about Lopez was his refusal to move up 3lbs and test himself. Coupled with his huge, huge struggles against Rosendo Alvarez and I have to rate him lower than his fellow Mexican contemporaries (Morales, etc.) even though his boxing style and ability to apply his ring IQ was much more enthralling.

 

Alvarez was the reigning WBA 105 champion when Lopez fought him. Nene Sanchez was WBO 105 titlist.

Vorapin and Potelo where the IBF titleholders during his reign and Lopez beat both (admittedly one division up, so after the fact). In truth, the only guy he missed was Chana Porpaoin, who reigned twice as WBA champ and who was tricky and tough enough to probably last the distance against Ricardo on his best day.

But he still beat fighters who were reigning counterparts at the weight, even if he didn't pick up every single title in the process.

 

Mayweather is the ATG at 130, Lopez is the ATG at 105, this can't be denied agreed?

Lopez is more decorated having the ATG record title defenses at 105, something Mayweather didn't do at any weight

Weight is not always the measuring stick, moving up has little value if its done before cleaning up competition. Thats just my own prespective, If Mayweather stayed at 130lbs, became undisputed & defended 30+ title defenses without a loss he would have been GOAT in my book. 30+ title defenses at 130lbs would have been impossible his resume would have had these additional names: (Casamayor, Freitas, Valero, Pacman, Morales, MAB, Hamed, Guzman) and at least one of these guys would have ruined the 30 title defense goal

Skipping divisions means nothing, if you keep picking fighters with safe styles & vulnerable flaws :nono

 

Yeah the problem is that Vorapin defended the IBF 20 times, its not like he just won the title...This can't be excused...thats his #1a Flaw

Any fighter who wants to be even considered the GOAT must be Undisputed atleast in one division! Lots of fighters avoid that because going Undisputed means you have to fight everybody even the stylistically problematic fighters

 

atsch

Compare Mayweather's weight jumps and opponents to Lopez' and their rank at the time.