De La Hoya, Cotto, Alvarez...Is that not Impressive?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Code Red, Sep 15, 2013.


  1. Code Red

    Code Red Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,972
    88
    Aug 20, 2013
    Floyd has had 3 fights at Junior Middleweight, each time he is outweighed by a significant amount and each time he knocks off the lineal 154 champion. There is always excuses made to explain away Mayweather's victories but wins over De La Hoya, Cotto, and Saul Alvarez at 154 are very impressive. Floyd is an ATG
     
  2. Stylez G.

    Stylez G. Boxing Junkie Full Member

    9,237
    13
    Dec 11, 2012
    None of those guys were lineal champs. However, they were highly rated champs. Two of them are future HOFers. Here's another thing, it's about time people realize that skill and experience are a lot more important than size and age. Alvarez was the prime, natural JMW. However, he looked totally lost out there. He simply wasn't ready for what Mayweather was bringing to the table. Oscar and Cotto weren't at their peak, but they were more talented, and experienced fighters. They were much more prepared mentally, and thus performed better than Alvarez.
     
  3. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

    16,589
    6,623
    Oct 18, 2009
    He has the best resume at LMW than any other fighter at the weight.

    Cotto, Canelo and Oscar.
     
  4. Code Red

    Code Red Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,972
    88
    Aug 20, 2013
    And there's the excuses right there, thats right explain away Oscar, Cotto, Canelo as not being at their best as if Floyd is forever 25, in his prime, perfectly healthy whenever he fights.
     
  5. lightsout978

    lightsout978 Member Full Member

    244
    0
    Sep 10, 2013
    It is impressive, considering Floyd is a rather small welterweight. You can say Oscar/Cotto was past their prime, Canelo was weight drained/too inexperienced, etc. etc.

    Regardless, beating those three guys is impressive. Floyd put on a clinic last night.
     
  6. The Joker

    The Joker Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,594
    0
    Jan 14, 2009
    Put an asterisk next to Cotto's name. The guy had the prime beat out of him by two guys Floyd avoided.
     
  7. Code Red

    Code Red Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,972
    88
    Aug 20, 2013
    Even if you wanted to say Canelo was "weight drained" he was fighting a 36 year old past prime light hitting welterweight who only came in at 150 lbs. How much more of an advantage does Canelo need? An extra 5 lbs taking him to 170 perhaps? Floyd has to fight with one arm only? Floyd had no advantages other than skill and experience, lets keep it real!
     
  8. lightsout978

    lightsout978 Member Full Member

    244
    0
    Sep 10, 2013
    I personally don't believe Canelo could have beaten Floyd no matter what the contracted weight was. Just saying, that's what people will say about it.
     
  9. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

    12,344
    264
    Jul 30, 2009
    Would be impressive if Oscar was PRIME and not washed up.
     
  10. The Prince

    The Prince Member Full Member

    274
    0
    May 16, 2010
    I think Oscar gave Floyd his toughest fight
     
  11. Code Red

    Code Red Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,972
    88
    Aug 20, 2013
    So Floyd is prime at 36 but Oscar is old and washed up at 33?
     
  12. Code Red

    Code Red Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,972
    88
    Aug 20, 2013
    Hatton have Mayweather a tougher fight than Oscar
     
  13. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

    12,344
    264
    Jul 30, 2009
    Floyd isn't prime anymore, he has diminished some, although looked better last night than last couple fights. He was prime vs. oscar though and oscar was over the hill, everyone knows that. Put that Oscar vs. the Floyd of late, Oscar wins. Oscar almost beat the prime version of Floyd.
     
  14. alakran

    alakran Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,451
    427
    Aug 31, 2011
    with all the fights they were showing to promote this I noticed that too, even with JMM even though he lost every round he punched better with Mayweather and landed some good clean shots but was just too small
     
  15. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

    51,687
    23
    Jul 28, 2008
    DLH OLD SHOT lost 2 of his last 4

    Cotto - SHOT

    Alvarez - impressive