Floyd haters: Isn't it about time to discuss him in the same breath as SRR?

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  1. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    If you think that Floyd is a better all round fighter, then I respect your opinion.

    But you have said that Floyd could have got inside of Hearns, and possibly have CRUISED to a victory.

    I'm sorry, but that's ridiculous!

    Ray Leonard is two inches taller than Floyd, with a bigger reach, and he was just as fast, with more power.

    Ray couldn't cruise past him, or out box him.

    So what hope would Floyd have had?

    Again, Ray had to fight (not box) Tommy Hearns to win.

    Floyd would not have fought Tommy in that manner.

    As great as Floyd is, at 5'8, with a 72" reach, he wouldn't have cruised past a 6'1 freak of nature in Hearns, who had a 79" reach, a fantastic jab, and a right hand that could knock you dead.

    Go and watch Hearns in his peak, and then come back to me.
     
  2. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    :good
     
  3. LikeFatherNSon

    LikeFatherNSon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He's an ATG. Best of his era. Kinda hard to compare him to other eras but he'd do well in all of them.
     
  4. second to none

    second to none Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No Robinson went 128- 1 Mayweather can never get near that, How many HOF fighters has SRR beaten compared to Floyd, probably 3 times as many if not more, Floyd can never get to that level.
     
  5. boxing_master

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    hhahah no way SRR never ducked anyone and he nearly knocked out everyone he faced and thats over 100 fights
     
  6. Boxmaster

    Boxmaster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Old guys will never admit that young fighters can be as great as the fighters of their generation. Its elitism.
     
  7. Boxmaster

    Boxmaster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Are you certain that Hearns would beat DLH, Canelo and Cotto?

    Sugar Ray Leonard probably would, but Hearns would get knocked out by DLH and could be outboxed as well by guys like Canelo who have a good chin, power and boxing IQ.

    You get no debate out of me with Sugar Ray Leonard being better, but at what age? In his 30s he would be losing.
     
  8. Boxmaster

    Boxmaster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton, both were 50/50 fights at the time and no one know who would win. Cotto wasn't 50/50 but it was considered a risky fight, as is Canelo. Mosley was old at the time, and Marquez was moving up in weight. The other two fighters were clear underdogs without a hope.
     
  9. Imperial1

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    No one had Hatton as. 50/50 fight !
     
  10. thekyuke

    thekyuke New Member Full Member

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    OP,that'll never happen! Moneyhaters aren't logical. Logical people see Money's superior handspeed,footwork and ringmanship. Honestly,arguing with his haters is like arguing with an ugly woman-what's the point?
     
  11. Devildoc

    Devildoc Capo Di Tutti Capi Full Member

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    Sorry but leonard hagler hearns set the standard too high for this generation. To even compare floyd to robinson is an insult.
     
  12. bobotnaman

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  13. HolyCityBully

    HolyCityBully Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You are right i should not have said he cruises if he can time the jab. It would still be hell to win cause he would get touched more then he is used to anyway.

    But what I meant is that Floyd's style takes away the right hand. Thats huge right there. IF Floyd could time Hearns jab, I dont think Hearns is not good enough defensively to get away from Floyd's lead and counter rights. And like I said Floyd would have the advantage inside.

    I believe you under-estimate how much fight Floyd has in him.
     
  14. sauroncuneta

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    That is the problem with Void, we will never ever know what is deep inside of him because he keep on avoiding challenges, he shies away from hard matches, he keeps on fighting boxers who knew he would win over, who take all advantages to himself. So yeah, blame Mayweather for that, and not us.
     
  15. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    I respect your opinion mate, but I think your way off.

    IF is the biggest word in the dictionary.

    If you look at Hearns at 147-154, look at Leonard, and then look at how Floyd fights, then it's a no brainier.

    How would Floyd have connected with lead rights, on a guy who was a great boxer himself, but who was 5" taller with a 7" reach advantage?

    Ray Leonard was as fast as Floyd, and was also taller, bigger and had more power.

    Floyd wouldn't have had the advantage inside, because he couldn't have got there without being hit.

    Ray was as good as Floyd at boxing, and he couldn't out box Hearns.

    Nobody Floyd's size could outbox Hearns at 147.

    You're saying that Floyd would be able to do things that Ray wasn't able to do.

    Hearns only had trouble with guys that fought him.

    That's why Ray had to trade with him in the end, because it was the only way to win.

    Floyd would not have had a shoot out with a prime Tommy Hearns. It's a ludicrous thought.


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