Floyd haters: Isn't it about time to discuss him in the same breath as SRR?

Floyd brawled with Cotto. When he has to fight he shows that he can do it in spurts. I think he could beat Hearns but it would be a tough fight like the Cotto fight.

I think Williams is a bigger threat than Hearns due to activity and stamina. I think Hearns would get tired and wouldn't be able to hit Floyd often enough.

 

the best part is Floyd haters didnt start watching boxing until 2011

 

I respect your opinion mate, but I can't see it.

Fighting a past his best Cotto and fighting a peak Hearns are worlds apart.

There's no way that Floyd could have out boxed Hearns in my opinion. Not a chance. Leonard couldn't do it, and had to resort to fighting him. I know Floyd can fight, when he has to, but the thought of Floyd actually fighting (not boxing) a prime Hearns seems ridiculous to me.

Also, although Williams was big like Hearns, they don't have too many other similarities in my opinion. I think Floyd could have got inside of Williams, but not against Hearns.

 

Great post divac,

how would you see a Floyd vs Hearns fight playing out, over 15, at WW?

Thanks!

 

floyd isnt prime fighting hearns hes a small guy at 135 even

 

I appreciate that, but he's still at the top of his game and he's beaten De La Hoya, Cotto and Alvarez above 147.

I'd have loved to have seen fight Pryor as well, and Duran at 135.

 

Floyd is certainly in a class of his own in todays era.

The difference is, SRR was in a class of his own in the golden era. Floyd of course can't do anything about that, its just how the cards fell, I think Floyd could've been great in any era, he might not have been undefeated, but still great.

 

Not a fan of Floyds lack of killer instinct with his speed and combos he could possibly blow these guys that are suppose to beat him out of the water.
He is a freak and the only possible fighter to probably give him trouble would of been Pac in 2007. Floyd is a once in a life time freak.

 

I think this current group of youngsters look at boxing skills from a different perspective and therefore over look the real skill levels of prior generations elite such as Tommy Hearns, Ray Leonard, Roberta Duran or Marvin Hagler.
If you truly love the sport of boxing and understand its skills, there is no way
anyone in their right mind would be foolish enough to say that Hearns would get KO'd by DLH and out boxed by Canelo??? What planet are you from?

Tommys jab by itself would beat DLH to submission all night long. It was awesome! Hearns remains one of the sports all time greatest pure boxers
who could punch and kytfo! Fighters today do not have the heart and competitive will to win that SRL, TOmmy, Duran, Hagler, SRR, et all did.

That's why until the sport recognizes its the competition and the will to win by being the best is to beat the best is the only way we will see the sport revive and regain its glory. Enough of the shams and cons and bs fighters with nothing real to offer the sport except the hype!.

 

Paul Williams was a freakish fighter at WW and his punch output was just amazing to watch, but he was a very flawed fighter on a technical level, threw very lazy punches most of the time and was extremely susceptible to getting stunned by anyone with counterpunching ability. Look at what a mediocre Carlos QUintana did to him.

I believe against Floyd at WW the usual things would happen, Paul WIlliams punch output would drastically decrease, he'd barely be able to land anything on Mayweather and he'd get schooled all night long by Mayweather's extremely accurate counterpunching. Some people talk about WIlliams on here like he was the Hitman at WW, which he surely wasn't.

 

Williams a bigger threat than Hearns?!? Where to start ... ?

Firstly, Williams style could best be described as "throw 1,000 punches in the general direction of your opponent and hope something lands". There's no prospect of him throwing 100+ punches a round against Floyd because Floyd's movement, counter-punches and straight-right would quickly take him out of his game.

Everyone's punch output is diminished when they fight against a great defensive fighter because they quickly get tired of hitting fresh air. "Activity" isn't getting it done against Floyd, especially from a fighter who largely ignored his physical advantages and fought small. We all like Williams but I think it goes without saying you need a high boxing IQ to trouble Floyd and Paul didn't have that.

Hearns in the other hand was a masterful boxer with one of the greatest jabs ever who knew exactly how to use his height and reach to hos advantage. To get inside on him, you had to get past two of the best punches any fighter ever had; Hearns' jab and his straight-right. He had the style, skill and power to severely trouble any fighter in history.

I'm not sure why you assume he'd get tired unless you think Floyd would take him into the deep waters that SRL dis in their first fight?

An intelligent fighter with a superior jab is going to hit Floyd a lot more often than a guy who gets in there and throws 1,000 without any real thought or strategy.

 

I have little doubt that if Hearns and Williams fought, Hearns who win, it's just a matter of how, likely KO, but it could potentially go to the cards.

 

I just feel like SRR is in a league of his own. I mean, even when he was clearly past it, he was still sublime, and taking on the best possible, naturally much bigger opponents out there, and even beating them. im only 25 years old but im very familiar with srr's career unlike alot of people, and although floyd is making his case for one of the greatest ever, he's just not there yet, and his boxing business acumen wont allow it. frankly, if you look at srr's career, to even mention floyd in the same breath as him, something happening more and more these days, because of the growing credibility of such a comparison, says loads about floyd and his status as an atg.

 

I'm sorry but no. Floyd ducked Margarito at welterweight when he first moved up and he ducked Pacquiao. He's probably the greatest super featherweight ever but he's not the greatest welterweight