GGG: "I'll fight Floyd at 154"

That's another sparring story but Golovkin sparred Angulo a few years ago and made him get on his bicycle after he tasted GGG's power so contrary to Rapidfire, i wouldn't say that's the best fight out there for Lara.

 

If GGG is serious about this, he's got to go after Lara at 154 and knock him out.

If he does that, and Floyd fights Molina at 154, all the sudden, now we'd have a fight that would make sense because GGG would be established as being able to make 154, and Floyd unifying 154 titles would open him up to challenges from the rest of that weightclass (GGG would also hold the interim WBA belt at 154 to Floyd's full version).

It still wouldn't happen because of the cold war between the networks, but hey, a guy can dream, right?

 

I must have used my evil sorcery again. It's such a curse being able to decipher the obvious.

 

What wild assumptions? Please list them, cause you're again talking clueless. You're the only one making wild assumption that GGG would duck Floyd if Floyd was to make an offer. I gotta say, that's one of the stupider things I've read here and a sign of a true nuthugger. Go ahead and make a poll, you'll be ridiculed by 95% of the board.

I brought up Sergio because that's the appropriate parallel to Donaire Rigo, except in this case the p4p guy has not stopped ducking.

 

I already did explain this in my last post. Why not read it before you ask me to explain again.

I made a point about Hype Jobs and TV Pressure. You then brought up Rigondeaux in a very weak and illogical attempt disprove my point.

You said I was making a wild assumption thinking Rigondeaux wanted to fight Donaire and was confident he would win. That is the exact same assumption you are making with GGG wanting to fight Floyd. The difference is, Rigondeaux has already fought and easily beaten Donaire. It's therefore far more reasonable to think he believed he could win and wanted that fight.

To bring up Sergio Martinez was pointless. Him and his relation to GGG is in no way comparable to Rigondeaux-Donaire. Plus you had no logical reason to ever mention Rigondeaux-Donaire in the first place. When I pointed that out to you, you said I was making wild assumptions. When I pointed out you had already made the same assumption, you start going on about Sergio Martinez.

You are clearly only acting out of love for GGG, yet you call me a "nuthugger". Precisely who's nuts am I hugging?

Your arguments are bizarre and entirely based on desperate repetition and irrelevant side-points.

Just admit you were wrong.

 

Dude your thinking is a fcuking mess.

1. Rigo was a perfect example, since your hypejob theory fails on it immediately. You tried to backtrack saying, but but but, Rigo wanted it for real, GGG is bluffing. So clearly your little theory doesn't work as stated, what's missing is the crucial mindreading part

2. I didn't say you were making an assumption that Rigo wasn't bluffing. You made an unsupported and ridiculous assumption that GGG was, dumbass. Me: The sun will rise tomorrow. You: The sun won't rise tomorrow.

3. You're clearly a Flo mo if you think GGG would be duck him. Put up a poll, you'll see, you'll be in a far fringe minority with a handful of hard core Flo mos (mostly trolling).

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DLH's pro record surely shits on that?

 

Can you please go back and read your own posts. I can only go on the actual words you write. Not on what you back track to after you are proven wrong. Even so, your arguments remain invalid for the same reasons I posted before.

I am not a "Flo mo". I just don't believe a 31 year old man with no big wins wants to drop 6lbs to a weight he has never fought at to face the P4P #1. If you have a legitimate explanation for why you believe he does, fire away, but no amount of obtuse analogies will convince me.

It's interesting you have now become even more insulting and rude. It seems the more wrong you are shown to be, the more you lash out. It's really not healthy to allow your self-worth to be tied in to your online debates on boxing. Especially when you are so poor at debating and refuse to listen. Being right all the time is not the most important thing in life. It's ok to admit you were wrong in a situation like this.

 

Props for keeping your cool under fire, most other clueless trolls don't keep it as civil. But that doesn't excuse the stubbornness coupled with the lack of a clue.

You keep saying you proved me wrong. On what? You don't even know.

Here's what I proved you wrong on:

Rigo obvious counterexample, you backtracked (not me, where the fcuk you get that?!) to include additional mindreading criteria. Plus your main point, that GGG is bluffing about wanting to fight Floyd, is just too laughable, I don't know why I bother. Please put it to the test, make a poll, see what company you keep on this.

And please, don't tell me how I'm wrong and my points irrelevant. Show me. I'm getting no counterarguments from you, just retreat and butthurt (civil though, props again).

 

Martinez was quick, fast, and southpaw.
Mayweather never entertained the idea of fighting Martinez.

Golovkin is another story. Not as quick or particularly fast and has a conventional stance.

Quick fast southpaws complicate matters for Mayweathers style, its part of the reason why he insisted Pacquiao do drug tests.
Had Pacquiao fought from a conventional stance, there would have been a Mayweather-Pacquiao fight even without the drug tests.

Not that Mayweather cant beat these southpaws, but its just alot easier to do without.

 

Even though I do think Mayweather would've handled Martinez at 154 more likely than not, I agree that Golovkin is a more appealing match ip stylewise as he offers nothing most people consider Floyd's cryptonite. Prime Martinez (2010?) however did have the tools, the speed, the reflexes, the foodwork etc. to be competitive but he has deteriorated quite considerbly. No shame in that, he's old as fck obviously.
Golovkin barely managed to hit a blow up LMW at MW and showed poor headmovement, that's just a recipe for disaster. I don't think power alone (which he possesses more than enough of) is gonna make up for him being slower, technically less accomplished and so forth. Usually one would think that Golovkin got to hit Mayweather eventually over the course of a 12 round fight and then it's over but look at Money's recent fights - it simply won't happen. Unless you are of P4P skill, reflexes and speed, you won't get to hit him flush once all night. In fact, I don't think Golovkin is even remotely close to being fast enough. Anything other than a lop-sided 120-108 would absolutely shock me. (at 154 that is)

 

GGG has done nothing to deserve a fight with the current world's best boxer. Like Canelo, he is doomed to fail and should not rush to defeat by listening to the "Know-Nothing-About-Boxing" mayweather hating UFC loving Slavs.
GGG should seek another path. One where he has a chance to succeed.

 

I'm glad you've calmed down. However, you do not become more correct each time you repeat yourself. I've given my opinion and explained to you why you are incorrect. If you want to know why I think you're wrong, please read my previous posts.

You seem to be too caught up in the process of having an argument to to see things in a balanced way.

The only thing I will repeat is that I don't see a career 160lb fighter getting to 31 years of age without fighting a big name, then deciding to drop 6lbs to fight the P4P #1. It's just more hype fuelling the GGG hype machine. Congratulations on buying into it so vehemently, however I doubt that investment will pay off.

 

You're always pointing to some older post of yours for full justification, without linking to it. Maybe you accidentally posted these higher quality ones to the wrong board? Congrats on another post that says nothing.