Could Pacquiao have ever beaten Floyd?

not sure about that, pac's lead left is pretty quick.

 

Probably, he probably would have rightfully been the underdog, although both of those guys could cause problems for each other with their styles. Still, he was certainly the biggest threat back when Mayweather was coming back, and would still have been the biggest, most legitimately doubtful match that Floyd would have participated in since he first ascended to the top of the p4p rankings.

And it would have been nice to know, instead of making conjunctures.

 

Back when people were talking about it, I favoured Mayweather to win, but I still thought Pac had a real chance.

One reason was his footspeed and handspeed -- the way he attacks is very difficult to deal with. He lunges in with such speed, and throws such quick punches while doing so, that it can overwhelm most opponents. Even Marquez, who knows Pac's style and techniques inside out, still got caught here and there in their final fight. I'm not sure if Mayweather has ever fought someone who could attack with that kind of explosive speed, closing the distance and unleashing punches in a flash. Hatton had the footspeed, but not the handspeed. De La Hoya had the handspeed, but not the footspeed. The closest that comes to mind is Judah, but he doesn't fight like Pac at all, and he suffers from stamina issues.

Another reason is that Pac was a combination puncher with a high workrate, who didn't get tired over twelve rounds. That's a big weapon against Mayweather, who typically likes to fight at a relaxed pace, where he can think, work things out, and pick his opponent apart. Pac is the type that tries to do the opposite -- he liked to force the action and just kept attacking. That's not a comfortable opponent to face for a cerebral boxer. The combination punching is also a useful tool against the shoulder-roll, because even though Mayweather could roll the first shot or two, who knows if he would be able to avoid the following punches? Even a defensive master can't neutralise every single shot that comes his way, when the punches are as quick as that. Pac's southpaw stance makes it even more irritating, because the shots are coming from different angles, and you have to adjust your style to deal with that. Another issue is that Pac punches well with both hands. Pac's best shot was the straight left, but you also had to watch out for his right hook counter.

To top it off, he has a lot of mental strength, so he isn't easy to discourage, and he also has a good chin. Marquez was able to knock him out because he did something very risky -- rather than darting back, making Pac fall short, and then countering, as he used to do so much in previous fights, he adjusted and tried something different. When he lured Pac in, he shifted to the side to avoid the shots and actually leaned in, towards Pac, and unleashed a full power punch to Pac's face. It paid off. That's not Mayweather's style, though. He doesn't really try to lean in to counters and really hurt his opponent as they're lunging in. He punishes them by pulling away and then hitting them (pull counter) or deflecting their shot before hitting them (rolling and then countering) or in the case of Hatton, countering them and slipping to the side at the same instant (check hook). I thought Mayweather would probably beat Pac via a decision, but it would have competitive moments.

Still a massive shame that it never happened.

 

why not? Whats so bad about stricter testing.....weird how manny turned it down then but is now making rios do it?

What was he hiding? :think

 

If you actually think Pac can beat PBF to the punch. You clearly don't have a clue. PBF clearly has better reflexes than Pac does that isn't even debatable. He can get off first on Pac he throws one shot faster than Pac does. I can admit that pac throws faster combos but he can't throw one shot faster and thus isn't faster than PBF. Zab Judah in his prime threw one punch faster than both PBF and Pac.

 

Honestly I never thought Pac could beat Mayweather. But I think he would have given him a hell of a fight and Mayweather is so good that even being able to push him out of his comfort zone is a huge achievement. But we will never know what would have happened Pac is not the same fighter he once was.

 

Could he beat Floyd? NOOOOOO!

Could he shook up or drop Floyd ? YES..

 

I really don't think so at all, a slick defensive counter puncher like Mayweather would pick shots off Manny all night. Manny cant outbox Floyd. This argument only exist because the fight never happened. The Floyd-Manny argument is similar to how some fringe basketball fans say crazy things like, "1994 Rockets could have beaten Michael Jordan if he didn't retire". The answer is no, it wouldn't happen. But when a person is at the top of his sport and has been dominant beating every opponent people often times reach for the opponent they didn't face in desperate search of someone who could defeat the guy at the top.

It's kind of wishful thinking, and solely based on the fact the match never happened. Because if it did, Mayweather would out box Pacquaio. And if Mayweather fought Pacquaio and beat Manny, people would just invent another fighter that Floyd didn't fight then say he ducked him or this or that guy would have beaten Mayweather".

 

Well Mayweather has always believed it was a risky fight and I think he would know better than the people on this board. Too bad that ship has sailed.

 

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Pacquiao is still Floyd s only real test.

 

Honestly I think Mayweather would win by decision. But to answer your question as to what Manny brings I always thought it would be an interesting fight because of the way Pac fights, he has the speed the in and out movement and the awkward style to POTENTIALLY give Mayweather problems. If Pac were to win this fight I think it would have to be inside 3-5 rounds until Mayweather adjusts of course.

 

No never !

 

seeing what you wanted to see from cotto vs floyd...doesnt make it reality

 

No he could not.

 

No testing actually works unless the user massively ****s up.
The only thing i can think off is that people like Mayweather and Pac are so rich they can use very very expensive designer drugs to give them a edge over less financially set opponents.

That aside even on the cheap you can still use quite a lot of PED's, but it gets to be a large hassle to hide it from random testing.

In essence its just PR that gullible people fall for, even fighters like Donaire who was on 365 days 24/7 VADA testing can still be juiced to the teeth easily.

Honestly if you have any knowledge whatsoever on PEDs its hilarious to hear people think any athlete is clean, the only guarantee you have is their word.