The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. -GhettoWizard-

    -GhettoWizard- Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Who is even handiing the tests? its in china:nut
     
  2. Holy Grail

    Holy Grail Boxing Addict Full Member

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    VADA is an independent organization so it doesn't matter what country it happens in, dumbass
     
  3. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    He's not known as the Lance Armstrong of baaxing for nothing you know
     
  4. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    He didn't duck the tests. Floyd didn't agree to the cut off. Who the f*ck is Floyd Mayweather to be making those demands anyway?

    How is he a hypocrite?

    He was labelled as a dirty cheat without ANY proof, and then ended up suing for defamation of character.
     
  5. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    On what grounds?

    Because Big Floyd said he was dirty, and because he didn't agree to all of Floyd's demands?
     
  6. markq

    markq Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What a hypocrite. There should be absolutely NO CUTOFFS. This isn't the medieval ages where boogie man exists. There is NO science behind Pac's excuses. If the procedure isn't followed to the letter the tests are bogus. It's no coincidence PEDcquiao is taking the tests in Asia. I'm sure this will be the excuse *******s and Arum use when this subject comes up again, "Manny has already proven himself clean in the Macau fight, why should he take more tests?"
     
  7. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABSOLUTELY NO TESTING DEMANDS IN THE FIRST PLACE.

    They were negotiating through the media, early in 2009, and Floyd didn't have ANY testing demands at all.

    Then in Sept 2009, his big mouth Dad started implying that he was dirty, on the grounds that he'd started at a low weight, and was fighting at 147.

    Then the testing demands were officially revealed three months later in Dec 2009.

    Floyd wanted OSDTing, and Manny AGREED.

    But Floyd wanted it up until the day of the fight, and Manny said no.

    He didn't say NO to the testing. He said NO to being tested up unitl the day of the fight.

    So he wanted a cut off. But he also agreed to be urine tested at any point, and he was willing to do a blood and urine test directly after the fight.

    There was NO PROOF whatsoever that Manny was on PEDS.

    So why couldn't Floyd meet him half way??

    Manny had been slandered, he'd agreed to be tested, so Floyd should have granted his cut off request.

    Isn't in funny, that nobody else had an issue with fighting Manny?

    Isn't it funny that Floyd didn't want any testing, until after his Daddy had made those unsubstantiated claims?

    We know another fighter, that started off at a low weight, and went through the weights, as high as 154 don't we?

    His name is FLOYD MAYWEATHER.

    So by his Daddy's own logic, Floyd must be on PEDS as well.
     
  8. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    I could give you 50,000,000 reasons baby
     
  9. markq

    markq Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't care about the drama between Pac and Floyd. I'll say again, testing is invalid with ANY cutoff. Fighter imposed cutoffs are a joke and everyone knows it.
     
  10. bodyopus

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    Floyd was the bigger name, the higher PPV earner and the guy who accepted Pac's weight 10 mil per lb weight penalty. Who the f*ck was Pac to demand THAT anyways?
    Why is it that people like you can see Floyd hypocricy on the catchweights, but can't see any when it comes to Pac.

    He is a hypocrite because;

    1. He complained that he couldn't take the test the day of the fight because it would weaken him. "The truth is taking blood out of my body does not seem natural to me and mentally I feel it will weaken me if blood is taken from me just days before the fight."

    Why doesn't this apply now with Rios?

    2. He needed 30 days, but was caught lying about that when it was shown that he had blood taken for the Hatton fit at 24 days. (iI guess this just makes him a liar AND a hypocrite.

    3. He continually mentioned how close to the fight the blood being takrn was the issue. "My concern as a fighter is that there should be some limitations and agreements on how much blood they can take from someone prior to a fight. My other concern is how close to the actual fight itself can they take the blood. It is my opinion taking blood from a person can weaken you. I do not want to be in a weakened state when I enter the ring against any fighter"

    Yet now, these excuses have magically washed away and for Rios, he can do OSDT all the way up until the fight.

    Tyson accused Holyfield of using steroids and demanded extra testing. Evander took the tests, got him in the ring and whipped his ass like a real fighter does, not sue and run the other way.
     
  11. Loudon

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    What do you mean, you don't care, we're debating it aren't we?

    It's ok, for you to say that cut offs are a joke, but why should Manny have agreed to all of Floyd's demands, that were based on nothing but a wild rumour??

    It's a joke mate!

    It was ok for Manny to be labelled as a cheat with NO PROOF, and it was ok for Floyd to make the testing demands on the back of that. But then when Manny didn't agree to everything, IT'S ALL HIS FAULT THAT THE FIGHT DIDN'T GET MADE??
     
  12. Loudon

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    If Floyd Snr hadn't have opened his big mouth, Floyd wouldn't have had a problem. They were going back and forth in the media for about 4 months, and Floyd didn't want any testing.

    It was only after Floyd Snr had made his comments, that Floyd wanted OSDTing.

    And look at Floyd Snr's reasoning behind suspecting Manny of cheating?

    You could apply the same logic to say that Floyd's dirty.
     
  13. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    bodyopus,

    You can't see a difference, in a weight penalty, and being publicly slandered without an ounce of proof? :lol:

    What do you mean, people like me?

    I'm not even a fan of Manny's, and his catchweight with Marg was a joke in my opinion. Fighting for a 154 title, at 150, with no intentions of defending it? Madness!


    That was Manny's prerogative four years ago, and there was no reason why Floyd couldn't accept the request, with an after fight test.

    It's ok for you, for Manny to be labelled a cheat, and it's fine that Floyd issued the demands when no other fighter had done to fight Manny. Yet it's not ok for you, that Manny didn't agree to everything? Ha!

    What happened last year before Manny's 4th Marquez fight?

    HE AGREED to be tested all the way up to the fight, like he is now against Rios.

    Yet the fight still didn't get made.

    So what? Everyone is different.

    Lets look at your logic and reasoning shall we?

    Again, you think that it was fine for Manny to be publicly slandered with no proof, but then when he sues, HE'S AT FAULT??

    Ha!

    What a f***ing joke that is!


    Maybe Manny would have gotten in the ring and tried whip his ass, if:


    1. Floyd hadn't have made any testing demands, and just fought him like EVERYONE ELSE did, without an issue.


    2. Floyd had've agreed to the cut off request, with an after fight test, and a urine test at any point.


    3. Floyd hadn't have demanded the entire PPV revenue, when Manny gave in last year and agreed to ALL of Floyd's testing demands, as well as a 45% share of the purse.


    Floyd turned pro in 1996.

    In 2009, he was on a mission to clean up the sport.


    Ha! What about the other 13 years?
     
  14. this_and_that

    this_and_that Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Loudon, with 3500+ posts you should know by now that the only people who believes that Manny is the sole person to blame for the fight not happening are the *****s.
    And frankly, who cares about what this minority think?

    I mean c'mon, the ENTIRE PART OF THE WORLD THAT IS RELEVANT TO THE SPORT has publicly announced their opinion that Floyd is to blame.
    That he is scared shitless of losing that 0.
    That he wouldn't go in the ring against someone with a considerable chance of beating him, like say Pac.

    Let me remind you that these same *****s think that Bradley won over Pac or at worst, it was a draw.

    Think about that mate.
     
  15. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    I know mate, it's a joke!

    I'm just setting them straight.

    There's another thread on here discussing Floyd fighting at MW. :lol:
     
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