The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

It's been answered.

 

excellent post. arum himself said he didn't want the fight and pac let him lie and make him look like a fool

 

My question was are these EFFECTIVE in that time frame, you still haven't answered me. I never claimed to be an expert, you claimed however that tests with any cut off were invalid, I just asked you to explain why. You have failed to do so thus far.

 

people forget both floyd and oscar were on the exact position pacquiao is now

the face of top rank, and both left him for bigger better things

Bob Arum is bitter about that, to this day

He managed floyd and was well aware of floyds abilities. Why split earnings with golden boy knowing floyd most likely would derail the pacquiao hype train when pacquiao could make millions fighting come foward tailor made fighters?

common business sense

 

Floyd agreed to 14 day cut off only to pacify Manny.

Its become clear to me and everyone else that you dont know anything about testing procedures. Do your research, for your own sake. There is no excuse for being so misinformed on this issue.

Here is a quote from Victor Conte:

And from Erin Hannan, Communications and Outreach Director, with the USADA:

Experts clearly invalidate all of the BS you are spewing on the board.

Go do your homework dude.

 

I'm not worried, I'm telling you what happened.

You're too stupid to allow for circumstances.


There's a world of difference between these two scenarios below.

Scenario 1.

At a press conference, the promoter asks if both fighters would be willing to partake in testing.


Scenario 2.

A fighters Dad opens his big mouth, and says that a fighter is dirty, without any proof.

Then on the back of that, the fighter is issued with demands, and then millions of fans around the world also claim he's dirty, still without any proof.


Manny didn't agree then, to what he's agreeing to now.

BECAUSE, the whole landscape has changed since 2009.

Back then, nobody was issuing demands, and no promoters, advisors, managers, trainers and fighters were wanting people to be tested in the way that they are today.

It was practically unheard of.

But now lots of promoters, trainers and advisors etc want these tests, because of what's happened, with all of the accusations etc.


Manny has now found himself in a situation, where the majority of his opponents will be asking him to be tested.

So now he's got to be prepared for it.

Again, last year, before negotiations with Rios, he told Floyd that he'd be willing to take all of the tests to make their fight.


Let me know when all of this has sunk in.

 

atsch

 

At what point?

Arum stated that he wasn't interested in Floyd, on the grounds of that he didn't think Floyd was serious about the fight.

But I've showed you a link, where after that, Floyd ended up meeting with him.

If you're going to mention these things, then give dates, with the circumstances surrounding them.

 

floyd ended up meeting with arum and nothing came up of it. Why would Arum change him mind? He already said he wasn't interested in the fight anymore

 

All those words and still don't even answer the question. You should be a politician.

The lanscape has been changed for a while now and Pac decided to continue his stance, so tht has NOTHING to do with it.

 

Loudon, there's no point arguing with *****s. They believe anything that comes out of Mayweather's mouth and try to convince themselves of what happened, but they all know what the truth is. Floyd claiming he's a "rich coward" on video, 50 cent his business partner saying on national TV that Floyd was the ducker, Floyd recently saying his team cherrypicks, and the list goes on. Majority of the boxing community know that Floyd ducked, so these *****s are irrelevant and a waste of time.

 

look its captain save a *******

 

bodyopus,

There was no issue regarding testing in 2009, up until September. Then Floyd Snr opened his mouth, and a few months later, Ellerbe was making statements wanting OSDTing up until the day of the fight.

It was his right to ask for a cut off four years ago.

But after everything that's happened, his circumstances have now changed.

But he voluntarily said last year that he'd meet all of Floyd's testing demands. He wanted to make the fight.

Bull****!

Manny had been slandered and was thrown OSDTing demands, when there was no proof that he was dirty.

Manny agreed to the tests.

So meeting Manny half way, would have been allowing him the cut off days that he requested, seeing as how he'd agreed to Floyd's testing demands in the first place.

There was no reason for Floyd not to accept the 24 day cut off, that included a urine test at any point, and an after fight blood and urine test.

Manny went with another option, because Floyd wouldn't give him the 24 days. If Floyd had have agreed the 24 days, they probably would have fought, unless Floyd had have been unhappy with something else.

The whole landscape has changed.

Who before 2009 wanted fighters to be OSDT'd up until the day of the fight.

Which promoters, trainers, fighters and advisors were pushing hard for that?

It wasn't common.

But now loads of people are asking for it, and making it part of their contract.

Do you seriously think that if Floyd hadn't started all of this off, that Manny would have asked Rios to be tested?

Since when has Manny demanded anything of Rios?

Has Freddie come out and accused Rios of being dirty?

Did Manny then issue demands? Ha!


Can't you see the difference in circumstances between now, and 2009?

 

who cares how many people pushed for a demand before? How many pushed for over the commissions weight penalties before Manny?

 

And Floyd wanting the entire PPV revenue, from a fight that had realistic expectations of grossing anywhere between $200-300m. atsch