The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

So if Manny could HYPOTHETICALLY have used EPO, that was undetectable within 24 hours, why was Floyd willing to accept a 14 day cut off?

 

When and why?

 

they were pursuing the marquez rematch I believe

 

Floyd Snr made the accusations in Sept 2009.

Then Manny issued the weight penalty, and Floyd agreed.

Then Floyd issued OSDTing, which Manny agreed.

But there's a huge difference in asking for a weight penalty, and asking someone to be randomly tested at any point during a 9 week plus camp, up until the day of the fight.

That was a huge ask. Not that it was asked anyway.

So how on earth did he REFUSE TO GIVE ANYTHING?

He agreed to be submitted to OSDTing, when nobody else and asked for that.

 

Why do you keep repeating this same **** over and over?

Arum said ages ago that he didn't want the Floyd fight.

WHY?

Because he didn't think that Floyd was serious about wanting it.

So they moved on.

But after that, Floyd met with Arum, as I've showed you in the link that I've posted.

There are direct quotes from Roger Mayweather in there.

Go and read it!

 

why refuse?!?! For what?!?!?!?! kenny made him look like a fool on espn over this

 

So what are you saying?

That if Floyd had've turned around and said "Ok Manny, you can have whatever cut off you want" that Arum would have found a way of getting Manny out of the fight?

Manny pushed for it last year.

Manny agreed to all testing, and he agreed to a 45% cut of the purse.

Why would he have done that, and why would Arum have let him??

It was Floyd who took the **** by wanting all of the PPV revenue.

Why would Arum have met Floyd last year, if he didn't want Manny to fight him?


Blaming Bob Arum alone, is a complete and utter joke.

You're clutching as straws.

 

Floyd still is moving the goalposts. Accusing Manny of being on PEDs was moving the goalposts. The catchweight was moving the goalposts. The "apology" today was moving the goalposts.

"Sorry about that Instagram photo. I don't manage my own Instagram account. Somebody else does that, but I don't know anything about who uploaded that photo mocking Oscar. Sorry about that, it was ridiculous, but it wasn't me. Even though it was my Instagram account, I had nothing to do with it. TMT! Hard Work! TMT! Hard Work!" -Floyd Money Mayweather

 

I told you what went down, from an unbias standpoint because im no floyd or paquiao fan. believe what you want

 

Why do Pacards keep spewing these dumbass ridiculous figures.

 

xD

 

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I love how people will argue a point but are doing so with false information. **** is hilarious. If you're gonna argue/debate, at the minimum, at least have your facts in order.

 

HolyCityBully,

You said that a cut off invalidates the testing, yet Floyd was willing to give him one.

I'm perfectly informed, thanks. Victor Conte's quotes are all theoretical.

I've read them all before. With a clear 24 days, Manny theoretically could have used. But it doesn't account for an after fight test, and what benefit would he have gained out of a 9 week plus camp?


There's so many questions to ask, looking at different hypothetical scenarios.

Lets break it down logically, and hopefully you can answer these questions.


There has never been any evidence of Manny using.

So again, lets say that Manny had a 9 week camp.


Do you believe he'd have tried to take anything in the 6 week period where he'd have been randomly tested?

If yes, then what could he have taken that wouldn't have been detected with a blood and urine test?

Also, if there was something that he could have took, that wouldn't have been detected, then why would he have argued over a cut off date in the first place, when it wouldn't have been needed?


If he couldn't have taken anything that would have gone undetected, then
he'd could only have used in his cut off period.

So out of a 9 week period, what benefits would he have gained by using for just 24 days before his fight?

And could have used for the full 24 days, when he was willing to be tested after the fight?

How realistic would all this have been?

What bull**** have I been spewing?

I've heard other experts state, that without random all year round testing, it was all pointless anyway.

And after all of this, Manny agreed to be tested up until the day of the fight.

 

oh and what exactly is the NSAC letting Floyd get away with?
are you guys still harping on the bull**** xylocaine ****?

@loudon...as a pretense, i Like you as a poster. IIRC you and i share the same views on RJJ which is cool.

but anyways, about cutoffs invalidating random testing and you bringing up Floyd was willing to do 14 days. It's quite obvious he was trying to make the fight....you can't have it both ways dude. You can't say on one hand that "floyd should have met him in the middle" and then on the other say it's bull**** he's giving Pac a cutoff....

I, for one, applaud Pac for doing testing NOW...but why so many years later? Why couldn't he do this when the Floyd fight was of such high interest?

 

Nothing came of it, because Floyd wanted the entire PPV revenue.

Why the f**k would Bob have met Floyd, if he hadn't have been interested in a fight?