The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

first offer was by schaeffer, not floyd, and disavowed by ellerbe 3 days later an that was before mediation.

2nd offer was with with the "i want to whoop his punk ass" which was clearly after mediation. it's well known, 24 days was never countered.

 

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24 days was countered. 24 days was mentioned after Pac and team were caught lying about needing 30 days. That was before mediation. 14 days was offered to meet in the middle before and during mediation.


Mayweather reveals a 14-day cut-off date was offered to Team Pacquiao, but they refused.

Floyd Mayweather would release his own prepared statement revealing that a 14-day cut-off date was offered to Team Pacquiao even before both sides entered into mediation, but ultimately, it was rejected. "Before the mediation, my team proposed a 14-day, no blood testing window leading up to the fight. But it was rejected. I am still proposing the 14-day window, but he is still unwilling to agree to it, even though this is obviously a fair compromise on my part as I wanted the testing to be up until the fight and he wanted a 30-day cut-off. The truth is he just doesn't want to take the tests," Mayweather explained.

http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content6646.html

 

schaeffer made the 14 day offer with a charge that pac had his blood drawn 14 days before the hatton fight. (it was also the same day that oscar put out a statement saying he believe pac is using PED which he got sued for.)

pac's team was pissed at dlh and disagreed with the 14day blood draw accusation by schaeffer, therefore rejecting 14 day offer. pac's team then realized it was actually 24 days but ellerbe had already come out to take the offer back after 3-4 days.

pac's team then went into the mediation and offered 24 days, no counteroffer from floyd until after the mediation.

 

When exactly did Manny agree to everything though? Last time they really sat down and negotiated was before Floyd went to jail. Dude tried to make the fight but all of a sudden a stadium needed to be built, Manny's cut needed more time to heal, investors needed to be found, not enough time to promote the fight...yada yada yada.

When did Manny agree to the full on drug testing?

 

before the margo fight.

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Ok so it was in September...so when was an actual time feasible for them to sit down and negotiate a fight? Manny was coming off of a loss (which is bull**** but it is what it is) AND he had a fight coming up with JMM. He proceeds to get KO'd. A few months later Floyd signs the showtime contract and announces Guerrero as his opponent.

When in that time frame was a good time for them to talk about a possible fight? Also, should Floyd give Manny the time and day just because Manny said "I'll agree to everything now"? There were two negotiations where Floyd's demands didn't change. Yes he moved the 14 days to no cutoffs but it was a brand new round of negotiations and Manny's camp knew this. But anyways, is that what we're coming to? That Floyd should simply give Manny the time and day and fight simply because now Manny agrees to the drug testing?

 

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that's all good and well but wasn't it in one of the fightcamp 360 episodes (for pac/shane) that Konz ON CAMERA stated that they only agreed to a 7 day cutoff date?

 

the offer was made during mediation...the mediator himself outed Arum's lying ass about it.

then after shane it was "up to the fight testing or no fight".

 

Manny has the right to refuse demands. The problem with me is that they came out with "testing will be no problem" then the immediate backpedaling. That's where it went wrong with me. FOr the record, I don't think Manny was on PEDs but his and his camps actions never helped their case.

 

Do you know that OSDT is an all year round testing ?

 

No, that would be Olympic Drug Testing. The word "style" indicates that its similar, not necessarily exactly the same.

 

that makes it stupid then

 

How is being tested at any point in a 9 week camp, possibly even the day of the fight, not an inconvenience?

How is that, in anyway the same as just making sure you hit the weight? Floyd has never ever had an any weight issues. It could have been a $100m per pound, it didn't faze Floyd at all. Plus it was after Manny had been slandered. Manny was probably just firing back.

If you think Manny was dirty, show me some proof.

Because all you've got as any sort of evidence, is "He didn't agree to Floyd's cut off demands, and take the test."


You don't seem to have any perspective, and you won't allow for any circumstances.


In 2009 - Nobody was asking fighters to be OSDTested up until the the day of the fight. There was nobody really pushing for it.

Fast forward to today, and nearly everyone wants it in their contracts.

The whole landscape has changed.


Look at the fighters that you've mentioned.

Canelo and Ortiz etc.

They were asked to partake in the tests.


Now look what happened with Manny.


He wasn't asked to do anything.

He was labelled as a dirty cheat, he had demands thrown at him, and was called a yellow, rice eating midget, who took power pellets.


Yet you're telling me that you can't see the huge difference in those circumstances?

Really?


Manny was well within his rights four years ago to not agree to all of Floyd's demands, and that doesn't mean that he was guilty, with something to hide.


Let me ask you this.

Lets supposing that early in 2009, Freddie Roach came out and said "I'm telling you I think Floyd is taking PEDS. I'm convinced that, that f***er is on something!"

Then a few months later, Manny said "We want Floyd to be OSDTested up until the day of the fight."

Ha!


What do you think would have happened?


Do you think Floyd would have said "No problem."?


Floyd and the rest of his family, his Dad, Roger and Jeff, would have gone f***ing Berzerk!


And you're lying to yourself, if you're going to argue against that.