Mayweather with out a doubt is a ATG

If your showcasing your skills against guys who are not it in your league or past their best how can anyone seriously think he can compete with guys who fought the best at their very best ! Sorry but if your padding your record it doesn't make you greater because you have done it longer ! The guys at the top are not ranked based on skill alone they are ranked based on who they fought and when they fought them !

Holmes greatness was never propelled by his 1 sided beat down of a shot Ali so why in hell does Floyd become a top 20 atg by what he's done thus far when he was never that high to begin with prior to his current crop of competition?


I'm sick of having this common sense debates when it comes to Floyd fans !

 

He's just not in the league of Leonard .I never said Floyd wasn't an all time great its just he's not top 20 or top 5 like some people like to claim same with Manny ..

 

He's definitely the most talented fighter I've seen since I started watching the sport around 25 years ago. The man is a perfectionist. He's defeated 19 world champs, over 17 years and 5 divisions, without taking a loss. He's been a p4p fighter for the past 15 years or so. His brain just works differently than other fighters.

 

Love him or hate him only am absolute idiot wouldn't consider Floyd an ATG

 

Floyd's resume is weak. It is composed of carefully hand picked opponents. Floyd's fans like to overrate him.

 

And this argument kills me. It's the same old argument that Floyd wins all these matchups so there's no need to have the fights at all and he'll get hated on if he did make the fights so what's the point. And the same excuses for why Floyd doesn't have the names on his resume, trying constantly to turn everything around on Floyd's potential opponents rather than Floyd not making the fights in question. As to some of the rest, SRL and Hagler were not in the same weight class originally for one, and for another, weight class is not more important than skill and the level of the fighter involved, Floyd himself has proven that enough. And sure, you can't fight everybody(except for the rare exception like Ali), but the issue is you have to fight somebody. Again, SRL has Duran, Hearns, Benitez, and Hagler, so not fighting Pryor isn't exactly that big a deal. Floyd is an all-time great without a doubt and for me, he's top 35. But he has fought nobody to warrant placing him on the same level of the likes of Ali, SRL, etc.

 

Plus when was the last time boxing got this much attention? :huh:think:huh

FLOYD IS THE BEST :mj AND WHEN HE LEAVES WE WILL MISS HIS c&oc@k**Y A..SS:smoke

 

this is definitely where a pacquiao fight 4 years ago would have been the absolute pinnacle and defining moment of both fighters' careers

 

But unfortunately Floyd was too much of a pu$$y to fight Pacquiao and had to make up a rumor that Pac was on PEDs to get out of a SuperFight with Pacquiao.

It sucks that Floyd was such a pu$$y 4 years ago when he could have stepped up and fought Pacquiao. Floyd blew it. Now Floyd isn't an all-time great, because he didn't step up like a man when he could have. He was too scared of Pacquiao and now that defines his legacy.
:deal

 

for someone who claims to be 'neutral', you sure cant wait to bury the hatchet into him

'scared', '*****', '*****s' - this is the language of a 15 year old virgin on these boards

I also seem to remember you saying you had quite a lot of life experience, or had been around a few decades, in one of your threads last time - yet you seem unable to escape pettiness and childish posts like this one

 

Yeah I am neutral. Floyd being a pu$$y and ducking Pacquiao is common knowledge. Even people who don't follow boxing know that. You don't have to be a Pacquiao fan to know that Floyd is a pu$$y and ducked Pacquiao.

 

you cant generalize and speak for other people collectively - you do that a lot
and the best people to determine if you are neutral is the people who react to your posts - not you. that applies to everybody

it seems your inability to see how blinkered your posts are, is because you're not willing to question yourself based on the overwhelming reaction you are getting on here

 

The overwhelming reaction I have got here is positive. I have made a lot of friends. Many people have come on here this week and has said things similar things I am saying, that it was a close fight, but Floyd slightly won. That's what I said. The only people who are negative are just a few rogue *****s who come in here attacking CJ Ross and anyone who didn't score it a shutout for Mayweather.

This is because they don't want you to say it was close, because then Mayweather would have to fight Canelo at 154 and that's not something Floyd wants to do. He's rather handpick his opponents and get easy money. That's the same reason why he wanted a catchweight. Because he's scared of Canelo. How can you not see this?