floyd should fight in middleweight

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  1. jonze86

    jonze86 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i already said that is my opinion,i know there have been other greats but in my mind those 4 stand above the others in the sweet science.

    and i'm still arguing what there is to suggest that floyd would lose?do you think that there are many boxers in 50'S who would cause floyd problems?there are many fights for floyd what would be like normal sparring session for him,nothing more

    and you keep saying floyd have retired already,what that say about floyd condition?take 2year brake and come back to dominate art of boxing.you absolutely have to be in condition to make that,are you seriosly saying that floud only trains about 8weeks in a year or this year 16week.it's impossible to be in that level an condition to train only that small amount of time.
    and also one more think,you keep saying floyd can't fight 20times a year because he fights so rarely and have already retired for 2years.do you think floyd wouldn't train like robinson if he had fights once in a month?you can bet he would train his ass off.
    and you keep saying old timers in boxing are some kind of superheroes,and you think it's the only sport in history where atheletes haven't been evolving,i have to say if you really believe that i can't argue with you anymore.you are really downplaying modern greats Whitaker,Barrera,De la hoya,jones,lewis,trinidad,toney etc..
    only atheletes in the history of the sport who would'nt have a chance in the 50's because these were so great and good condition.
    still wishing usain bolt was born 1900 so jesse owens could kick his ass at 100m..nevermind bolt runned 9,58 and owens over 10 seconds.owens is clearly bettet athelete and that rule apply for every other sport than boxing,it's magically in some people's mind totally different ballgame where rules of humankind don't apply.
     
  2. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Fcuk off. PBF is already in his 5th weight class fighting guys who outweigh him by 15 pounds or more or fight night. Even if he did this it still wouldn't be enough for a hater like you. You'd say he must move to SMW or he hasn't proven anything and is a coward.
     
  3. jonze86

    jonze86 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    earlier boxers have to fight often for the money.i can bet floyd would have more fights if he got paid 10grands a fight,and also i can bet SRR wouldn't be fighting everymonth if he got 40mil a fight.

    boxing technicues have evolved,training methods,human race have evolved.stop living in 1800century and come back to modern day.
     
  4. ribtickler68

    ribtickler68 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Floyd wouldn't have fought him, mate. Or fought him at 154lbs, maybe.
     
  5. macho_grande

    macho_grande "I'll never get over" Full Member

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    Floyd lost weight between the weighin & fight night... He isn't even a 154 fighter, not even close.

    Fact is, he'd beat everyone at 160 but he'd do it on the move, & then all you idiots will call him boring.

    Floyd can't win no matter what
     
  6. ribtickler68

    ribtickler68 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In heat so bad that the referee collapsed!
     
  7. ribtickler68

    ribtickler68 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Boxing techniques haven't ****ing evolved at all. Look at Charles, Louis, Robinson and JJW. Who throws a better left hook than them now? Not a solitary ****! Training is different, but the basics are still sparring, heavy bag, speed bag and skipping. 50 years from now it will be the same. Why? Because it works!
     
  8. jonze86

    jonze86 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i'm a big Floyd fan and i can understand the haters and the demand go even further from his weightclass,i think some haters don't want to see floyd lose.only to prove himself big time.already of course floyd is proven,but as a floyd fan are you okay with matchups against garcia etc.. only reason i want him to move up is to find more dangerous opponents and see how truly great floyd is.only way to do that is fighg against bigger guys,if he lose so what?he would still be one of the greatest and get respect for finding his limits,and if win.easily claim that floyd is same level as SRR.and i'm only talking legacy wise.if floyd stays WW it's okay,but never claim that he is the greatest.Floyd got one major problem his resume is too thin to claimed GOAT and only way to add that resume is moving up.moving up and winning equals SRL wins against Hagler etc..i'm totally okay if floyd stays at WW and fight other ATG's but there is nobody,only pac but that fight have lost the luster.names like garcia,khan,alexander,brooks don't do almost nothing legacy wise.i would take anytime of the week MW title over those 4names and i think i'm not only one thinking like that
     
  9. ribtickler68

    ribtickler68 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I've said that I rate Floyd VERY HIGHLY. I just dispute that he is the GOAT. He is obviously a tremendous fighter, though.
     
  10. ribtickler68

    ribtickler68 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Apart from Bolt, how many 100m record holders have been tested positive for steroids? Bolt is a freak of nature; if he is clean, he is not typical. The times of clean athletes haven't changed that much since Bob Hayes's days. Even today, some athletes clock 10.20 at games. Most of the ones who clock faster have been caught cheating like Gatlin!
     
  11. jonze86

    jonze86 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    okay so it's impossible to think nowadays when there are more population,more pro boxers,more information that there could be many better techniqians? you sir are stupid if you honestly beliefe that punching techniques haven't evolved at all and boxing in general.still only sport in history of the world where old times were better.
    i think jordan have sucked in basketball in the early 1900.because the atheletes were so superior then and have way more knowledge than we have today.
     
  12. Str8ryte

    Str8ryte Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He weighed in at 150 last saturday, but you want him to fight @ 160 where the fighters come fight night will weigh 25lbs more than him. Yeah i think not. Get real.
     
  13. jonze86

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    you are really digging it deep.yes some atheletes do but you happen to know owens would have been in that category?it's a fact that modern man is bigger,stronger and smarter than before.how many records you find early 1900 what is still not broken?and do you think upper echelon of athletes of modern era wouldn't stand a chance early 1900?
     
  14. ribtickler68

    ribtickler68 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There are great fighters now and there were great fighters THEN is what I am saying. Show me a better left hooker than Robinson, then. Show me a better combination puncher than Joe Louis. Tell me how Mike McCallum's body punching was inadequate.

    I seriously doubt there are more pro boxers now, either. There are certainly more World Titles! For what it's worth, I'm not dissing Floyd at all; he's an exceptional fighter who would be a hard fight for anyone.
     
  15. J.E.T.

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    Totally agree...........


    JET