The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

If you dont know or understand the "order of events" why are you posting?

 

I think we all know who the joke is. I'm off chap, I'll let you have the last word. You been taking so many L's trying to down Floyd that the last word is the only victory available in your life.

 

yes

 

EPO and testosterone......like i said

 

I don't see what difference it makes?

They had no evidence that he was dirty, and JMM, Cotto, Clottey, Hatton etc all had no problem signing the contracts. What does that say to you?

 

atsch

 

He was offered a 14 day cutoff the first time round.

The way Floyd and his team went about asking for testing didn't really help in terms of making the fight I must admit.

I don't even he think was on PEDs but, Mosley, Cotto, Ortiz, Canelo, Guerrero, Garcia, Donaire, Rigondeaux, and Matthysse had no issue with random testing up untill their fights. And I am sure there is a few more fighters who have done random testing with out a cut off.

 

You aren't capable of answering a straight forward question, but I'm the joke?


You're just like all of the other clowns on here.

Floyd can basically do whatever he wants. He can issue all sorts of demands, but when they're not met, it's his opponents fault for not accepting.

Manny can be called a yellow, rice eating midget, who takes power pellets. He can be slandered with NO PROOF. But when he sues for defamation, he gets criticised.

It's a f***ing joke!

Floyd was on a mission to clean up the sport, after THIRTEEN years as a pro.

At the end of the day, Floyd wouldn't grant Manny his cut off request.

We know what happened afterwards don't we.

Hatton, Clottey, Cotto, Marg, Shane, and JMM ALL SIGNED CONTRACTS WITHOUT AN ISSUE!

F**k Floyd!

 

weegriffin,

He wanted a 30 day cut off. Then he asked for 24, and Floyd said no. If Floyd had've said yes, we might have seen the fight. Who the F**K was Floyd Mayweather to be issuing all of these demands, on the back of a bull**** rumour by his Daddy?

Of course they went about it the wrong way.

I've acknowledged this. But four years ago, nobody wanted OSDTing. It was never an issue, even for Floyd. It was only when Floyd Snr opened his big mouth, that the testing demands were put in place.

They had no proof whatsoever. So why should Manny have bent over, and complied with all of Floyd's demands?

Look at the guys you've mentioned, and then compare their circumstances to Manny's.

They've been asked to partake in testing, because it's common.

Manny's name was dragged through the mud, again, with no evidence, and he was issued with a set of demands.

He was then labelled, a yellow, weak, rice eating midget, who was popping power pellets.

None of the guys that you've mentioned, had their names tarnished, and had to sue for defamation of character.

There's a world of DIFFERENCE between asking for something, and pushing someone into a corner.

Do you seriously think that if Cotto, Marg, Clottey, Hatton and JMM, were all certain that Manny was dirty, that they'd have signed up to fight him?

F*ck Floyd, it's his legacy that will suffer, not Manny's.

 

You have to admit, asking for a cut-off for a drug testing regime makes him at the very least highly suspicious!

 

See, I can appreciate that you are a proud Floyd hater, rather than the pu**ies that can't admit it.

 

Nope.

Wrong order of events.

You think you are speaking to people who arent informed.

Ive rarely seen posters as stubbornly ignorant as you.

Congratulations, I guess.

 

I can see why people think that.

But lets assume he was clean, because after all there's never been any proof.

Would you want someone coming into your camp at any point during the 9 weeks, when nobody had asked such a thing before?

Would you want to be dictated to?

Would you want to agree with all of your opponents demands, when his family had accused you of being a cheat?

He was well within his rights to not accept, and that doesn't make him guilty in my book.

Blood may well weaken him. That may be genuine. But I suspect that his cut off request, was also made to not back down.

These guys have got huge egos.

What if it'd have been vice versa?

What if Freddie had've come out early in 2009, and said that he thought Floyd was taking PEDS?

What if Manny had then come out and thrown demands at Floyd?

I've watched Floyd for many years.

I'm telling you now, that if that had've happened, Floyd, his Dad, and his Uncles, Roger and Jeff, would have gone berzerk!

There's no way Floyd would have said "Fine, I'll do whatever you want."

Because Floyd would never let anyone speak down to him like that.

His ego is bigger than Manny's.

 

The problem with what your saying is complete speculation.
The "no proof" you claim is spurious as well, after all Lance Armstrong "never failed a drugs test". If the testing is ineffective than there will be no proof.

At the end of the day, he refused to commit to the one thing that would prove his innocence above all others, an OSDT regime! (compared to drug testing for his previous fights OSDT blows them out of the water)
If he was innocent, why didn't he submit to testing and clear his name?

To me that should be regarded as highly suspicious and one of the major reasons for the fight not happening.

 

Missed this before, that is complete rubbish. The amount of blood they were going to take was 5ml I beleive. Out of 4,200ml in an average 60kg human (elite atletes usually have more).

Compare that to a study on elite cyclist who had 568.2mls of blood taken, were found that performance was effected for only a week afterwards. This is still within the 14 day cut off period even though the volume taken was over 11,264% more!