The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. HolyCityBully

    HolyCityBully Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The Victor Conte quote, and the USADA quote I gave you already answered your stupid question.

    Beyond what the experts tell us, logically speaking, agreeing to testing but only if you can control it, isnt really agreeing to testing.
     
  2. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    How did you get on with the timeline?

    It's not a stupid question.

    Again, Victor Conte was just being theoretical, and he didn't account for Manny having an after fight test.

    Floyd didn't want any testing at first. Again, it was only after Floyd Snr had opened his big mouth.

    Why should Manny have agreed to ALL of Floyd's demands, after his name had been dragged through the mud?

    Anyway, Manny agreed to the 14 days, the following year, and what happened?

    Floyd wanted to spend time with his family. :lol:
     
  3. TheMoneyTeam1

    TheMoneyTeam1 Picking cherries Full Member

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    A noob from "Steel City" that provided us with the hype job Hamed and the scrub Brook. You're argument is stupid AF.
     
  4. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    What a great, well thought out response. :patsch

    Are you going to enlighten me on why my argument is stupid?
     
  5. Sweet Jones

    Sweet Jones Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I've called you out for this BS argument before (see post here from Conte and Caitlin here (Link) and call out to you bullsh!t here (Link) ).

    Please address this simple question: If Conte KNEW about the 24 hour window (part of Pac's proposal), on what basis do you claim that he didn't ALSO know about the post fight blood test (also part of Pac's proposal)?

    Either post some proof or kick rocks with this crap.
     
  6. HolyCityBully

    HolyCityBully Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No.

    Conte was NOT being theoretical when he said that athletes can do all kinds of things if they know they will not get blood tested for 24 days. He said it as a matter of fact. And that includes a test post fight, as masking agents for PEDs are easily used WHEN YOU KNOW IN ADVANCE WHAT DAY YOU ARE GETTING TESTED. Do you understand that? Pre-dated tests mean NOTHING because they are the most easy to dupe.
     
  7. bandido

    bandido The Black Bandit Full Member

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    Floyd and Pac are both hypocrites.

    Deal with it.
     
  8. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    For the record, Manny Pacquiao's name was never dragged through the mud until the fight negotiations stalled for Pacquiao's refusal to have PED tests performed.

    Before it became apparent that the fight would'nt happen, the issue of PED testing was'nt being made a big deal of.
    In fact when Freddie Roach first learned that Mayweather was proposing PED tests, Roach laughed it off by saying, "Manny will pass any drug tests in the world, we have no problem with that."

    .......only Manny did have a problem with it and the mud slinging started when Pacquiao outright refused any kind of blood tests.
     
  9. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Here we go again.

    Conte was being theoretical, and he said that if a fighter had a clear 24 days or more, he could do certain things.
     
  10. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    I said Conte was being theoretical, with regards to Manny doing certain things.

    It's all hypothetical, and it doesn't prove ANYTHING!

    If Manny had've had a 24 day cut off, would he realistically have used for the whole 24 days? He was willing to do an after fight blood and urine test, and a urine test at any point.

    How realistic is any of this, as there's never been any proof of him using.

    What benefits would he have gained if hypothetically he'd have used for 3 weeks or less, out of a 9 week plus camp?

    Also, we know that Manny agreed to do 14 days in 2010, and Floyd wasn't interested.

    We also know that Manny agreed to be tested at any point, including up to the day if the fight, like Floyd had always wanted.

    Did the fight get made?

    No!

    Because you can't negotiate with a guy, who wants to keep the entire PPV revenue.
     
  11. Sweet Jones

    Sweet Jones Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Again:

     
  12. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    His name wasn't dragged through the mud??

    Ha!

    Floyd had no testing demands whatsoever, until his big mouth Daddy started giving interviews in September 2009.

    Then all of Floyd's fans started to ask the question.

    Then two months later, Floyd issued Manny with the demands.

    Their was millions of people the world over, debating whether or not if Manny was clean or a dirty cheat.

    Freddie and Manny didn't have a problem with being tested, until they knew the exact details.

    Why should Manny have had to have been tested, just because of what Floyd Snr had said?

    How the hell did outright refuse ANY tests?

    They argued over the cut off dates, not the actual tests.
     
  13. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    I said that Conte was being theoretical, and he'd said that if a fighter had a clear 24 days, then he could hypothetically do certain things.

    I also said that his quotes, didn't give a hypothetical example of Manny having an after fight test.

    The 24 hour masking could refer to an after fight test, but he never specified.

    Once again, Manny agreed to a 14 day cut off in 2010.

    So where does that leave Conte's theory?

    Manny also agreed to be tested all the way up to the fight, last year.

    You can't use Conte's theory as any sort of evidence can you?

    Theoretically, me, you and anyone on this forum, could do a number of things.
     
  14. Sunchild78

    Sunchild78 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If you ask me Pac is a fool.
     
  15. Sweet Jones

    Sweet Jones Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So, in other words, you're just pulling this Conte-didn't-consider-Pac's-post-fight-test crap out of your anus.

    And actually, here's what Conte said:

    Please stop repeating your already addressed and weak argument.
     
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