The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. Sweet Jones

    Sweet Jones Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Reboot this unhinged bot.
     
  2. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ha!

    Have you heard yourself?

    Come on!

    So what are you telling me here?

    That when Floyd initially offered the 14 days, he wasn't aware that Manny could have used within that time frame?

    But then when Manny gave in the following year, Floyd got together with Ellerbe and Haymon, did some more research, and when it became apparent that Manny could have used within the 14 days, they thought that it was highly suspicious, so he turned him down?

    Really?

    Well then answer me this.

    When Floyd wouldn't grant the 14 days, why didn't he say something like "He's not having a 14 day cut off, that I originally offered, because there's things he could take within that time frame."

    Instead of "I'm not thinking about boxing right now, I just want to spend time with my family." :lol:

    The guy who's OBSESSED with MONEY, refused Manny, and the chance to make millions and millions of dollars, because he wanted some family time?

    Ha! As if!
     
  3. Loudon

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    Sorry, were the questions too hard for you to answer?

    It's ok mate, don't worry about it. :good
     
  4. brendo

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    Yea, seems pretty clear to me.

    As i said, later on the problem lies with both of them. But initially Manny's refusal to take proper drugs test's was the problem.
     
  5. Loudon

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    That's ridiculous.

    How long have you been watching Floyd?

    How many interviews have you seen?

    I've seen numerous interviews, he's got a huge ego, and everybody knows how he operates and how he carries himself, especially in public.

    If Floyd's reasons for not agreeing to the 14 days, were because he thought that there was a chance of Manny using, there's no way he'd have said to the media, "I'm not thinking about boxing at the moment, I want to spend time with my family."

    It would never have happened.

    That's not how Floyd operates.

    He publicly called Manny a weak, yellow, rice eating midget, who was popping power pellets. Yet he wouldn't have told them the real reason for not allowing Manny the 14 days?

    I'm sorry, but that's ridiculous.
     
  6. brendo

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    I'm not really interested in what the boxers said because it's all conjecture, and neither of them would actually understand most of the legal negotiations. After-all their professional boxers who get punched in the head for a living, not lawyers or PED experts.

    At the time it was debatable whether 2 weeks would of been long enough to take something and get away with it, but around 2009 Michael Ashenden (world Drug-testing expert) exposed the EPO micro-dosing technique which is one of the methods which could be used. Therefore after appearing very suspicious in the negotiations, the sudden agreement to the 14-day grace period was rightly refused by Floyds team.
     
  7. Tekniqs

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    ya you can't negotiate with floyd cuz floyd didn't agree to everything Manny wanted the first time they were in negotiations....come on dude.
    I think 14 days would have been good enough BUT when it was offered and declined, maybe suspicions arose and that's why Floyd said up to the fight testing or no fight. /shrug


    Floyd COULD have accepted, but on the other side of the coin, Manny COULD have accepted the 14 days to start with.
     
  8. mrjotatp4p

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    That is a lie. Even Arum said that they got through the money issues quickly to his surprise.

    Floyd asked for testing from the start and it was accepted and later back tracked by team Pac. Remember Floyd's original request was OSDT no cut offs and he went to 14 days in order to save the fight but Team Pac walked.

    JMM also asked Manny to test for fight 3 and 4 and Team Pacquiao didn't do it but then when he got knocked the **** out, "We Should Have Asked For Testing" Team Pacquiao.
     
  9. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    Dude Loudon doesn't get it. By the way Floyd's original request from the start was full testing up to the fight. The 14 day cut off only came when he was trying to save the fight. Full testing was his original position
     
  10. dodong

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    every ****in' ***** is forgetting the fact that pac always has agreed to urine testing at anytime all the way to fight day.

    ...and not one of these dirty *****s can name a known wonder drug/PED's that pac can take within that 24 days that would make him a beast and be undetectable with the tests he offered.
     
  11. LikeFatherNSon

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    So why do you think VADA and USADA demand random blood and urine testing up to the fight?
     
  12. dodong

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    if there is a known PED that can make pacquiao a beast in 24 days that is not detectable through urine testing and won't show on a post fight blood test...then floyd has a case. 'til then, we chalk this up as another duck.
     
  13. LikeFatherNSon

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    So why do you think VADA and USADA demand random blood and urine testing up to the fight?
     
  14. brendo

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    I'm not a ***** but i've already named several. I Guess you can't understand my posts.
     
  15. brendo

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    EPO and blood doping among others. Do some research
     
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