The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. jonze86

    jonze86 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    there is no great fighter at boxing,all are bums and cans.all us keyboard warriors would beat the **** out of the floyd's resume.these haters are so pathetic.they hate floyd so much that they can't even sleep.

    always they have time to speak **** about floyd,if you are SMART and hate somebody you try to forget the people you are hating,not these haters because they are IDIOTS and ******ED

    Many boxing greats know and have said floyd is one of the best ever.i think i believe pro boxers like SRL,Hopkins etc.. more than these keyboard warriors who don't know **** about boxing.

    according to their logic SRL is a liar,for saying floyd could compete and be one of the best in his era.
    and every opponent is washed up,i'm glad that floyd stays always in prime and peak condition.floyd never gets old.floyd's PRIME longest in sports history.17years and still counting!

    and i start to see haters have think there is new man who will beat floyd.Danny Garcia,i bet in december people start to say floyd is ducking,but in may when the fights happen Danny is too green etc..

    floyd fights under 30years opponent.always too green

    floyd fights over 30years opponent.washed up

    floyd can't have a good win according to haters.
     
  2. modernfonzie

    modernfonzie Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Real talk its hilarious. I cant believe these people are so blind.
     
  3. Code Red

    Code Red Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So how long has Floyd been in his prime and in perfect condition? Obviously you must believe that Floyd doesn't age, feel pain, have bad days, etc...cause thats a lot of exuses you just made for a lot of world class fighters. You must believe that Floyd is really special if all these champions are cherrypicks
     
  4. Drunkenboxer

    Drunkenboxer Least Eligible Bachelor Full Member

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    :lol::patsch

    I don't suppose you have a source for this quote, do you?
     
  5. Primenal

    Primenal Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lol I can't even remember how many victories Floyd has.. I know forty something, but I think you mentioned all 40+ people he fought on that list. I think some of those guys drive cabs in Las Vegas, and theres a few that should have been driving cabs instead of fighting Mayweather.
    To be fair he does have some decent/ good fighters on his resume, some he fought at good time, some he fought when he knew he could easily get the victory, but he's always going to get hate for not fighting Pac, and deciding to retire when the WW division was red hot (Williams, Margarito, Cotto, Clottey, Mosley, etc). Instead he retires, waits for the wars to happen and the fog clears, then he comes back like the bank robber he called himself, and steals the $.
     
  6. brendo

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    can you please address the post i gave you later
     
  7. brendo

    brendo Member Full Member

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    Well, at the time of the Pac fight there was no recognised test for Autologous blood doping, so no your wrong there, and its also probable that the markers of any blood doping would have washed out by 14 days if it was microdosed. Thats why blood testing is needed throughout the fight.

    I edited testosterone because i wasn't sure of it, but when i did some research on lamont peterson that proved me correct.

    EPO is very hard to catch and the only was they ever had reasonable doubt that Lance Armstrong was using was through blood testing not through the 300-500 urine tests he took.
     
  8. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    it's probly rubbish.

    again, pac has always agreed for his urine to be tested all the way to fight day.

    if all known anabolic steroid are detected in urine sample and the only accepted method in testing the presence/use of epo is through urine testing, what PED could make Pacquiao a beast in less than 24 days.

    also, pac agreed to an immediate post fight blood test. a complete blood count then could be done on pac's blood sample after the fight to see (if his hgb has gone past the normal level) which would make him suspicious of blood doping via autologous blood transfusion.
     
  9. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    1. how the **** do you microdose an autologous blood transfusion?

    2. morales, tarver, salido, peterson, berto....were all caught using synthetic testosterone/anabolic steroid through urine test.

    3. with epo, again, the only accepted method of testing is through urine testing. pac has always agreed to have his urine tested at anytime all the way to fight day.

    so all you *****s, stop bringing up EPO.
     
  10. MoJoGoodie

    MoJoGoodie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    one things for sure...Pac seems to think somethings going on too...cus he is asking for testing...like his idol Floyd:deal
     
  11. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Again, if that was the case, then why didn't Floyd come out and say that then?

    Also, why didn't the fight get made last year, when Manny agreed to EVERYTHING?
     
  12. brendo

    brendo Member Full Member

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    1. You seriously can't work out how to micro-dose a transfusion? I'l give you a clue: Aliquots. Secondly, it's irrevelevant anyway as the post-fight blood test wouldn't have detected autologous transfusion as they wouldn't have the neccasary baseline information. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16503554
    To give you an example of how much you need to test to detect abonormalities in the bio-passport tour de france cyclist's are tested an average of 4 times over the 3-week race (21 days) and leading cyclists are BLOOD tested around 5 times over that period - this one from the Vuelta Espana http://journalvelo.com/breaking/chris-horners-bio-passport-date-and-what-it-means/

    2. As i've said the Peterson test wasn't available at the time, so he could of micro-dosed testosterone and not be caught using the urine test.

    3. In the same post that you've just quoted it states This report also recommended that "urine testing be used in conjunction with blood screening for a variety of reasons", one of which being that urine alone is ineffective at catching micro-dosing, again as stated many times previosuly http://www.wada-ama.org/en/Resources/Q-and-A/Athlete-Biological-Passport/

    Also, although the urine test is the only direct detection method for EPO, anomolies in the bio-passport have led to the same length bans in many athletes without being caught by the urine test, just not proof of direct use of EPO. http://velonews.competitor.com/2011...lizotti-and-cauchioli-with-2-year-bans_162823

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/astarloa-suspended-and-fined-for-uci-biological-passport-infraction
    So your wrong in saying only urine testing would catch EPO cheating, the blood passport would also catch it and flag it as cheating leading to a ban, it just wouldn't be able to directly prove it as EPO use, but it would prove blood doping of some form.

    Anyway, your obviously not going to admit your wrong so its argument over as far as i'm concerned.
     
  13. brendo

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    I have no idea why he didn't say that. Maybe legal Ramifications?

    As i've said before, i think last year was at least partly Floyds fault for the fight not being made.
     
  14. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Again, Floyd doesn't operate like that.

    Manny wanted 30 days, then when the Hatton video came out showing the 24, he said he'd do 24. Floyd said no, and wanted 14. They couldn't come to an agreement, so they went their separate ways. Then the following year Manny agreed to the 14. Now if Floyd thought that there was a chance that Manny could still use in a 14 day period, then that's exactly what he'd have told the press.

    We all know how Floyd operates.

    He'd have turned down Manny's proposal by saying "I did offer him 14 days last year, but we think it's possible, that there's things he could potentially do within that period. So we're not willing to give him 14 days."

    That is what Floyd would have said.

    He wouldn't have said "To be honest, I'm not thinking about boxing right now, I just want to spend time with my family."

    If you don't agree, go and look at his interviews that he's given. There's loads on YouTube etc.

    You don't publicly call someone a yellow, rice eating midget, who's taking power pellets, and then use a cover story, as to why you can no longer give 14 days.

    Floyd could have made the fight in 2010, and he walked.
     
  15. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Partly? What he did was a joke!

    There wouldn't have been any legal ramifications, if he'd have just suggested that it was a possibility for Manny to use.

    Also, he wasn't bothered about legal ramifications when he was talking about him popping power pellets etc, so it doesn't make sense.
     
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