The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Go and do some research. Floyd had no issue with the testing, unitl after Floyd Snr had spoken out, giving a bull**** reason.

    He went to 14 days to SAVE the fight?

    Ha! But then the following year, when Manny AGREED to it, he wanted some family time? :lol:
     
  2. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    I do get it.

    Again, they were negotiating through the media for months. Floyd made the request in December of 2009.

    But there was no issue early 2009, when they both gave various interviews.

    It's complete bull**** that he tried to save the fight with his 14 day cut off. If that was the case, then he'd have made the fight, when Manny agreed to it in 2010. Nobody who's obsessed with money, would turn down that opportunity, because they wanted a bit of family time.
     
  3. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Here you go again.


    THIS IS NOT EVIDENCE!


    Look at what Dr. Don Catlin said.

    "A 24 day cut off for blood testing, is not enough to prevent abuse."


    "If you have a 24-day window that's free, with no testing, you can take whatever you want, and you won't get caught, end of story.



    This is what you've said "

    "Now, that's two experts familiar with testing, telling you that a 24 day cut off, even with unlimited testing urine testing, is not sufficient."


    You're talking about rebooting the bots?



    READ THIS VERY CAREFULLY, AND VERY SLOWLY.


    Everybody RESPECTS Conte and Caitlin's HYPOTHETICAL THEORIES.
    However, they were both quoted at the time that Manny wouldn't agree to the 14 days.


    HOWEVER, AFTER THESE QUOTES, Manny AGREED to the 14 day cut off!!!!


    Also, last year, HE AGREED to EVERYTHING.


    He agreed to be tested up until the day of the fight. But the fight never happened.



    Stop posting the same quotes, just from one period of the FOUR YEAR saga.


    The above quotes cannot be used as any form of evidence, that Manny was dirty.


    They were just theoretical examples from 2009-2010. :good
     
  4. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    Bull**** my ass. Floyd said clearly after Manny walked away that he would not get the same deal. He said it again in the ring after beating Mosley as well. Floyd went back to his original position of no cut offs after Manny turned down that 14 day cut off window. Floyd had every right to go back to his original position. Floyd said no more cut offs and that is a fact and he said it well before Manny said he would do 14 days.

    Then they came out with that we agreed to full testing but on the 24/7 Koncz said, "We agreed but not within 7 days," meaning they wanted a damn cut off which they knew they wouldn't get.

    Also JMM even offered testing to Manny and they turned it down. Then after getting his ass knocked out. "We should have asked for testing." Team Pacquiao!!! Now they are doing testing for Rios with no cut offs. LMAO
     
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    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Bert made this comment, and Floyd's fans said he was a delusional old fool.


    50 cent came out and said that he tried to make the fight, but Floyd didn't want it, and Floyd's fans said he was bitter.


    Manny agreed to the 14 days, and Floyd wanted a holiday.


    Manny agreed to everything last year, and Floyd wanted the entire PPV revenue.



    As Bert said in that video, you can use Floyd Snr's own logic, to say that Floyd's on PEDS.


    Isn't it funny, that Floyd was only on a mission to save the sport of boxing, after THIRTEEN years as a pro?


    He wasn't bothered in 96, 97, 98, 99, 00, 01, 02, 03, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, but in 09, he had a vision. :lol: :lol:
     
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    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    And look how Manny is doing OSDT now. :rofl
     
  7. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Stop making excuses for him.

    Floyd could have given an interview early in 2009, and said that he would like all future opponents to partake in OSDTing, because he wanted to clean up the sport.

    He could have said that, and he didn't. Just like he hadn't done from 96 onwards.

    But three months after Floyd Snr opened his mouth, he was on some sort of a mission. :lol:
     
  8. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    Cry me a freaking river. It is clear as day that Floyd asked for OSDT from the very start and there is even video with Dan Rafael stating that very fact. Team Pac agreed to it but later backed away wanting cut offs. Manny never agreed to full testing with no cut offs until this last time out when Arum refused to make the fight. Manny went from 30, 24, 7, and then 0 but Arum refused to talk to Shaefer and had a million excuses as to why Manny couldn't fight Floyd that May. He even had you tards believing that Joe Jackson was going to put up the money for the fight and Joe Jackson is broke and has to get money from Katherine if she feels like giving him some. :rofl
     
  9. Loudon

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    :lol: :good
     
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    But he didn't agree to testing throughout the fight until last year. Very suspicious!
     
  11. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yes, you made the thread, and look at the thread title?

    Manny wouldn't agree to Floyd's 14 day cut off request in 2009.

    But I could say that Floyd didn't agree to Manny's cut off request in 2009.

    It works both ways, and doesn't constitute as a DUCK.


    Also, your thread title is bull****, because in 2010, Manny agreed to the 14 days, but Floyd wasn't thinking about boxing, and wanted some family time. :lol:

    Manny also agreed to everything last year, and the fight never happened. 50 cent gave a candid interview, and said that he tried to make the fight, but Floyd wasn't interested. We also know that Floyd tried to claim the entire PPV revenue, and nobody who was serious about making the fight, would have done such a thing.

    I'm going to ask you straight right now, do you hold Floyd responsible in anyway, for the fight not having taken place?
     
  12. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    How can you dictate that someone has to be tested, in a certain manner, with no evidence?

    Manny agreed to 14 days, and Floyd wanted a vacation.

    Manny agreed last year to everything, and again, nothing happened.
     
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    First of all, there is no owning going back and forth in this thread, just obsessed fans trying to prove an opinion. Second, can we all learn to use paragraphs. Third, if anyone thinks that either side wanted this fight to happen, then they are delusional. Isn't it obvious that both of these fighters were better off financially to avoid this fight. Both were at the peak of their popularity, and in peak form.

    They get the lions share fighting against lesser known opponents, why mess that up? This fight was never going to net these men $100 mil each, seriously. It made better business sense to fight guys they had better chances of winning against. Although Mayweather was undefeated, Pacquiao had an aura of invincibility at the time, and that was highly marketable.

    Mayweather haters, think about this, how would team Mayweather KNOW that blood testing would be the crux that ended this fight? Pacquiao haters, why did Floyd ask for the test in the first place.

    Also, it is funny that Manny wants the same blood test that he initially balked at. Hate Mayweather or not, it does make you wonder. It was never about blood testing, it was about finding a sell-able way out of the fight. Both sides achieved this! The truth is, we were sold 9 ppv fights before this fight was declared dead! 9 times we listened to these 2 say that they wanted to fight each other. 9 times we watched fights that were less than what we deserved.

    We were hoodwinked, and you guys still haven't figured it out 4 years later.
     
  14. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    Dude learn to read and deal with facts. After Team Pacquiao walked from the first negotiations Floyd Mayweather stated that Manny would not get the same offer again. He went back to his original position of full testing no cut offs. Until Manny agrees to "Full Testing" there was nothing to talk about. Then came the 2nd negotiations when Manny didn't agree to full testing with no cut offs.

    "We pretty much agreed, just not within 7 days" Koncz

    Floyd didn't budge on his word of Manny not getting a cut off.

    Manny never agreed to full testing with no cut offs until this last time out. Manny can say what he wants but at the negotiation table Arum and company never agreed to full testing.

    Then this last time out Arum wouldn't even pick up the phone.

    "Why is Shaefer and GBP calling me"

    "Who is Mayweather's Promoters and people who negotiate for him"

    "Where will Mayweather get his guarantee"

    "Falcon Hawk will put up the money which is run by Joe Jackson"

    "Joe Jackson is the Uncle of Floyd's fiance" (which is a lie. lmao)

    "May is too soon for the fight"

    "If Floyd is going to jail we will take the May date"

    "Manny has a cut that needs to heal"

    "We want to build a stadium that will seat 40k people"

    "Why does Shaefer keep calling me"

    Let it go dude. All of these guys bare responsibility for this fight not happening and Arum deserves much of the blame bc this fight could have happened had he picked up the phone so he and Shaefer along with the mediator could work out the deal. Instead Floyd ended up calling Manny himself which should have never happen.

    While Arum was coming up with excuses Manny should have put his foot down and told him to do his job. Instead Manny bitched up and turned down 40 million instead of using that 40 million as a starting point for proper negotiations.

    Now after all this **** talking and back and forth it becomes mute bc Manny for the first time is doing OSDT with Rios. :lol::rofl
     
  15. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    What has Floyd and Oscar leaving him have to do with anything.

    Bob met with Floyd late last year, and nothing came of it.
     
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