Prime Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Prime Roy Jones Jr More Unbeatable

Jones had good defense as well and was better on the attack. I don't think Floyd would be able to last 12 rounds.

 

My point is there is a huge difference between looking 'unbeatable' against guys like Otis Grant, Richard Frazier, Richard Hall, and Glen Kelly than fighting a Bob Foster.

He would get hit by these ATG's and his Chin would crumble. That is my point. Chins matter.

 

So you're going to quote Kerry Davis now, who tried to make the DM fight for Roy?

We've seen links within the last two months, of where Roy had approached Holyfield, but he wasn't interested.

Again, we've all seen the various links to the DM saga.

Hopkins priced himself out of the rematch.

And we know that Roy at 34, went up to HW, and then back down to face a fit, and motivated Antonio Tarver.

So just how reluctant was Roy, on a scale of 1-10?

A reluctant guy, who was content to feast on his bums, WOULD NOT HAVE GONE TO HW.

He would also not be fighting way past his best, against CW's in Europe, in his 40's.

A reluctant guy wouldn't behave in that manner. :good

 

Only if you can find it!

 

'unbeatable' against Toney & Hopkins is the part you conveniently left out liar boy.

Bob Foster? jeez..James Toney would have beaten Foster, a guy the small Doug Jones ko'd. The same Doug Jones btw who Jones Jnr would have played with like a cat with a mouse.

Roy Jones musta banged your mrs for you to have written such crapolla.

Jones chin was solid in his prime.

But of course you aint very bright so you can't see when his prime was.

For example I noticed he had slowed down in the Derek Harmon fight, did you? did you fukc.

 

Roy got of the juice and his Rooster ambush style of fighting got solved by Tarver. Tarver solved the problem, end of story.

 

James Toney lost to some average fighters received gifts in other fights and was a 2 time convicted steroid cheat just like Jones was. :rofl

Jones never had to receive a gift Decision like Toney did. Ever. So he has that going for him.

Bob Foster would obliterate Roy's fragile Glass Jaw.

 

Tarver solved the problem? Ha! What at 35, after going to HW and back, after 50 fights?

 

you are twisting this and talking about a different time period. I am talking about the time pre going up to Heavyweight to fight Ruiz. Where where all the big fights that were made? There were ZERO. After he started getting KOed of course he was willing to travel to fight as he had no other option as HBO had dropped him he had no network to manipulate and he is broke as he still has an IRS Tax lien on his home :roflatsch

So yes of course he is going to be willing to go to Europe or Australia at that point what does he have to lose?

How old are you?

 

What "big" fights?

 

What "big fights"??

Explain these huge paying fights??

 

He looked pretty unbeatable against Hopkins and Toney.. Arguably bigger names than anyone he missed. We both agree that fights should have been made that didn't, but that shouldn't overshadow the fact that he beat most likely the two best of the era besides him..

I agree that chins matter, but they matter more for others who's style is to take punches so they can land theirs.. Hagler would not have been an ATG without an iron chin, but Roy was an ATG without an iron chin.

 

Give me a specific time period.

He unified at LHW in 1999.

In 2000, he beat Telesco who HBO wanted as an opponent, and he beat Harding, who'd beaten Tarver.

Early in 2001, Davis tried to make the DM fight, that everybody wanted to see. We all know what happened, it's been discussed to death. Roy then spoke to Holyfield late in 2001, just prior to his third fight with Ruiz.

Early in 2002, Hopkins priced himself out, and late in 2002, Roy signed to fight Ruiz.


Apart from Roy going to HW earlier, the only BIG fights were DM and a Hopkins rematch.

Both of those fights didn't happen, through no fault of Roy's.

You are being too harsh.

It's not as though there were loads of big fights that he passed up. The fact that he spoke to Holy late in 2001, and he paid Brad Jacobs to meet with Davis, proves that he was interested in making big fights.

He wasn't content to just fight the Kelly's of the world.


If Roy was fighting just for money, he could have taken lesser fights than Danny Green in Australia, and Dennis Lebedev in Russia.

A reluctant guy, wouldn't have taken those fights in his 40's.


I'm 33, but not mentally.

 

I do think Roy shyed away from certain fights that were high risk low reward kinds of fights... It is your job as a prize fighter to do that...

But he certainly was not afraid of the high risk, high reward fights.. He tried to make several of them.

 

So from the time Jones beat Hopkins in that boring fight to the Ruiz fight there wasn't any big fights for Roy? :huh Is that what you are saying? :rofl