Joe Calzaghe v Roy Jones Jnr 2002

Great post! :good

 

Calzaghe added: "I'm not chasing after Roy Jones. Be honest, Roy Jones is a good fighter and I don't want tough fights, I just want big money.

Assasin, are you claiming that this was words put into Joe's mouth, and he didn't actually say this?

 

I think he was pretty much saying he knows how ridiculous it was to negotiate with Jones and he wasn't going to chase him and give into his ridiculous demands.

 

This is a solid post!:good

 

Never mind what you "think" he was "pretty much" saying. He said he didn't want tough fights. :deal

 

so you can verify these articles? right?

Wa55en said all this at a time when Joe left him. Wa55en was just being his usual bitter self.

go to America for less money and no guarantees for the bigger fights? that's a great idea. but it wasn't done by lots of Jones opponents, but Joe is a special case and needed to do that? right.

i've never claimed that Jones should have fought Joe in 99. not once. only from 2001 on-wards.

Joe was known in America by 03. he'd been shown a good few times by then. he was a big fight for Jones. he was the ruler of his division.

what have you got to go on that Joe wasn't known that well in the states? i want you to answer this.

no, you don't need to chase fights all over the place like an idiot. you either want to face the best or you don't. playing ****ing games all the time is for the weak minded.

Margarito chased Floyd but got no where. in a legitimate sport, you shouldn't have to do things like that. Roy wanted everyone to jump through hoops and play to his tune all the time because he wasn't interested in fights. he either priced himself out, or made some other ****ing excuse. 5 million was on the table if he wanted the fight, but he didn't take it. no counter offers were made.

we're just going round in the same circle. :-(

Joe wasn't looking to get the fight on his terms. where did you get that from? it was Jones who wanted it on his terms, just like he always did. that's how he wriggled out of the big fights.

Joe took the big fights when the other guy was willing to fight. Jones always had his excuses one way or another.

Ricky got the fight with Floyd because Ricky was the the champ at the lower weight class, had beaten Tszyu (when he was with Wa55en) and had a huge fan base. it made money.

it's laughable to think that Ricky got the fight based on a few comments after the Castillo fight. if they wanted to, they could have made the fight after beating Tszyu.

this is boring. going over the same ****. the same excuses.

if Jones wasn't the problem, then why when being called out did he manage to duck all those fights? the money was there. but no, Roy being Roy as usual. his career went that way through nothing but choice. if Joe had those same choices, we wouldn't be talking about the same **** over and over again. because those fights would have happened. just like they did when the big names called him out, they happened straight away. no delays, the contracts were signed.

i'll stick with the truth, you can stick to your fairy tales of Jones not being to blame for all those fights not happening.

 

by this time he'd beaten Eubank, Mitchell, Veit, Brewer, Reid, Woodhall and Sheika.

how many fighters had this good of a resume when they fought Jones or Hopkins?

he fought in the UK because it made the most money. you don't just travel for the sake of it. that's why the Veit rematch took place in Germany, because they offered the most money.

how many times have we done this, Des? Calzaghe was willing to go to the states for the Hopkins and Jones fights, because it made sense to. it never did any other time when fighting other fighters in the division.

when you're willing to travel to the other guys back yard, and the money is there but they still deny you that chance, there is nothing more you can do. it's that simple.

 

i'm saying i don't trust articles on the internet.

i'm also saying that IF, he said those things, they are taken out of context.

 

what tough fighters did Joe dodge then? :think

he's saying that he's not looking for tough fights just for the sake of them, he wants to be paid as well.

what fighters do you know that take the toughest fighters out there for **** money? give me these names.

 

what tough fights did he really go after? :think

No, he said "I don't want tough fights, I just want big money". That's a direct quote. Stop trying to church it up by adding "for the sake of them" and "wants to be paid as well".

 

:rofl

 

Lets not forget, 02 Joe was still KOing people.. RJJ gets his glass exposed a bit earlier in his career

 

Ha!

What he was saying, was quite simple.

He didn't want to fight Roy.

 

Its funny how people choose not to trust articles on the internet or turning sentences inside out and upside down when its suits their agenda.

 

you need to pull your head out of the sand and drop this 'defend Britain at all costs' attitude
you're not a robot, give yourself some credit and develop some free thinking. stop making it 'us' against 'them' or you'll never evolve