Hey Professor Ipay4leavingNot, go play in traffic. By the way, thanks to everyone else for commenting and making this thread valuable for everyone to gain info from. These posts will help others in some ways and others not so much but it always helps to give a guide for people that are wanting to reach a new level. But seriously Professor Ipay4leavingNot, drink bleach, thanks bud.
To be fair you didn't post any proof. What you posted were opinions and some doctor saying people with more fast twitch muscle fibres have the potential to be more powerful punchers which we already know. I must have missed the part of the OP's post where he said this guide will make you punch like Tyson. It's a basic guide on increasing punching power for newbies. Chill out, mate. If you actually read what he said there's nothing wrong in it.
Good thread mr wolf. :good The guy who 'disagrees', fine but show some respect. Express yourself in a more adult manner and you'll be taken more seriously. :hi: Everybody knows it's genetic, but you can still make significant improvements, that's all wolfie's saying. atsch
I appreciate the responses guys, by the way, take a look at this article that may spark some interest in punching power. It does not teach anything technique wise but it may fuel your intuitions. http://ringtv.craveonline.com/blog/172135-from-the-pages-of-the-ring-magazine-power-outage
OMG, Here we go again the same argument over and over again. Please all you experts explain why some guys can hit and some guys can't they both throw the same punches, a hook is a hook, a right is aright, punchers and non punchers throw the same the only difference is the effect. A puncher can have his chin up, chin down, tucked or not if he is puncher he will still punch hard, so please stop with all the nonsense about vertebrata or oscillating framus connected to the verbrata, its all BS. If it's cos the vertebrata are not aligned then if they do get everything lined up then will a punchless wonder will become a powerhouse puncher. People don't get fooled into thinking there is a formula to making you a powerhouse hitter, you either are a puncher or you are not, simple. Work on your skills to compensate for your lack of power. There are a slew of guys who box and use skill, Floyd is the perfect example, he punches correctly, but nothing usually happens, maybe cos his chin and vertebrata are not lined up, jeez give me a break. If I sound angry, or arguementive I am not it's the same old tired line from some trainers who are trying to impress newbies with there spiel. Don't worry about power if you don't have it work on skills.
This is a message to any future commenter or viewer. I am giving information that can HOPEFULLY, better your boxing game or give you some experimentation to find out what is really inside of you as a fighter. If you read my tips, you can either toss em or take them, its not that hard. Maybe it can sprout some sort of intuition to reach for new skills and abilities, maybe not. I am giving you knowledge from experience. Punching power is unfortunately a conundrum with many people, but if i can give some info to make it less complicated then I am going to. I dont care if you think its bull****, or you hate hearing about it, the only thing that matters is that someone learns. You guys have this black and white mentality that just ****s up any possible progression for people. Take what I say, try it or toss it, then make your own conclusion, thats what knowledge is for. If you try many times to experiment for power, speed etc, and nothing changes, at least you no longer will stress about it because you now know your limitations. For ****s sake, stop thinking about yourself and understand that no one makes posts JUST FOR YOU. If you dont like what you see, suck it up and move on. Dont bring negative trash just because you are tired of it, or you think you have the answer and I dont blah blah blah. Respect the folks who try to help and those who try and look for it.
Not to start any **** again but aren't you just a boxing manager therefor basing everything you said on opinions and old school views taught by coaches and not scientific fact? I know the comeback will be "Well have you ever seen xxx boxer that can't punch suddenly start knocking people out" before you go there, that's irrelevant as that's not what is actually being discussed in this thread. Nobody has claimed you can take some guy that can't punch and turn him into Tyson. Why you feel the need to mock Scrap because he gives you the physiological differences between guys that have punching power and those that don't I don't know. Maybe attempt to understand what he's saying before you throw out your insults.
I admire your stance, buuuuuut it's a fruitless search for that magic formula that will give you ko power. A forum is an exchange of ideas, so be open to suggestions, and reality. Boxing as a sport has been around for hundreds of years if you include the Greeks and Romans then thousands of yrs, and to this point in time nobody but nobody can honestly say they can make a punchless wonder into a ko puncher. So why waste your time on trying to become a puncher work on skills, like Floyd does with his limited power. Work on punch placement. A good example of this approach is Julio Cesar Chavez sr, who never was a one punch guy. He knew where to place his punches where they would do the most damage. The hook to the liver is a very good example of punch placement. Don't take things personally if you really want to learn you should be open to them and disregard the ******, they mean nothing.
Your first sentence shows you need to re-read what the OP posted. The loints hopefully improve punching power to a degree, he never claims his pointers will produce KO power.
And as a boxing manager I do know what I am talking about. YOU guys are always going to make something out of nothing. If you really want to educate people then do so, but try to do it on their level. I can see already, what your response is going to be, "O sorry my IQ wont let me talk to people who are almost ******ed". Did you ever hear "Cater to your audience?", you'd be surprised to find people are not as dumb as you think. Mocking, insulting jeez how is what I said insulting, he has his opinion I have mine. Are you again trying to "O Scrapper, Scrapper Dempsey, is mocking AND insulting you". Just try to use words everyone else uses it doesn't make a person stupid, if they don't know what the hell you are talking about. FYI, when people talk about POWER they mean power, they shouldn't mislead people into thinking yeah, I can be a puncher. Skill training, timing, punch placement, correct punching technique can give you what you want without going into anything else. All these can add to your game, so if you were really trying to help someone tell them, "yeah, you can increase power but not to the level you may think and that my fine feathered friend is the truth. "what is actually being discussed in this thread." is POWER.
When it comes to boxing management, yes. Says the guy going on long rants stating it's impossible to become a KO artist because he hasn't actually read what was posted. The thread is about increasing punching power to a degree. What's the issue? What in the blue **** are you talking about? Where did I say a thing about anyone's education or IQ? By what you're saying I'm guessing you think everyone on this forum is thick as pig ****? I said attempt to understand what Scrap is saying because he's given you something he thinks makes a difference. Without investigating what he said like a normal human being, you just threw out "Haha. You're talking bull****" How do you know without investigating? Having an opinion is fine. It's kind of different when you say my opinion is right and Scraps is a load of bull**** which is what you said. atsch Grow up, mate. :huh Which word confused you? YOU have misconstrued what the OP posted not anyone else. If people read his points and think it's a guide to becoming Mike Tyson then they need to go back to school and get themselves some reading comprehension skills. Hell, it's right here in his first post - "Ladies and Gents, if you dont have murderous KO power, live with it and work around it. Its ok, honestly, you wont knock EVERYBODY out and this tip was just for solid power technique" Do you really think people here are that simple minded? What is being discussed is increasing power to a degree, what degree depends on yourself. If people read this and think it's a guide to becoming a puncher then they're not too bright, nowhere is this implied. It simple implies there's ways of increasing your punching power, nothing more nothing less. Overall you're making a big argument over nothing. Try re-reading the OP's posts and get a grasp of what he actually said instead of going on another irrelevant rant.
Virus, keep on keeping on and your nitpicking ways, I am in the real world and can tell you, you don't know what you are talking about. I have my opinion and you have yours I am not going to waste my time trying to find fault in what you say or try to explain what I said. People if you want to increase power, try "Skill training, timing, punch placement, correct punching technique can give you what you want without going into anything else." it wont increase your power, but working on those things that I mentioned will make you a more effective puncher, that's it.
To increase your power Work on these things the increase in power, if any will be more due to your punching more effectively: -Skills -timing -punch placement -correct punching technique There it is plain and simple, without nitpicking mocking or insulting anyone. Have fun breaking down my comments.