1. I understand, as Im sure that you do that boxing is a business. Even more so than it was 30 years ago. The reasons he didnt fight them matter though. He never campaigned at 154. He has no business at 154 to be honest. SRL, Hearns, all naturally bigger men. 2. There is a big difference in doing something for your legacy, and doing something that is stupid. He doesnt need to, and shouldnt find GGG because he wouldnt get credit anyway. There would be someway to discredit him for that win, the same way it happens for all his wins. He's maxed out at 150. He's just not a big guy. He weighed 150 on fight night vs canelo, who came in at 165. Chances are against GGG, GGG would come in at 170 or something. People talk SRL, but Sugar Ray started at WW. So him going up to fight hagler is only 13 pounds off his original weight. I respect your opinions though.
I respect your opinion as well, but let's just be real here. Floyd himself has proven that size alone isn't enough if you don't have the skills. He's now shown himself to be "the man" at 154 lbs. He's been either at Welterweight or Light Middleweight for the past eight years or so. Going up to Middleweight to test himself there is a logical step and again, GGG is good but he's no Hagler, neither is Martinez, and both have stated they'd be willing to drop down to 154 to fight Floyd. In my opinion, even with that stipulation Floyd would get more credit than not for taking them on, and they are at least better opponents than likely who he's looking at (Garcia, Khan, Alexander, Bradley/Marquez). If he fought either at Middleweight proper, not only would he get more credit, he'd get another belt in another weight class. The reason Floyd won't do it is not so much because of the weight, it's the styles and level of the fighters in question plus the weight. It is too much risk for him to take with his zero on the line and that has been a consistent issue throughout his career. And that would be ok if he didn't talk himself up as the GOAT or wasn't the P4P best, but at that level, fighters are held(or at least should be) to a higher standard. Floyd comes up a little short in comparison to the best ATGs as a result.
I can respect every word you say but do you see the handicap your giving Money a welterweight having to prove himself against a middleweight?
Sugar Ray was 30 when he fought Hagler. Floyd is 36, will be 37 for his next fight. I just dont think going to middleweight his necessary, he's not a young buck anymore. If he was going to fill out and get bigger it would have happened by now. I actually understand what you're saying as far as legacy goes. But he started at 130. Its not light Duran who started at 130 either. Floyd doesnt balloon up. When he was at 130 he walked around at 130 135 he was walking at 135 140 he was 140 147 he was 147 and at 154 he doesnt even make that. Which is why he's the smaller man on fight night EVERY FIGHT. Because he doesnt rehydrate so it maximizes his conditioning. You got guys right now that fight at 130 that come in as Light Welters. Welterweights that come in 160. and Jr Middles that comes in 165-170. He's the only fighter of this generation, with the exception of maybe Pacquiao, who could exist in the generation of fight night weigh ins.
Good jab Walk down, this is vital, you need to be on his ass like white in rice And high output You'll get caught but that fine since he makes lamont Peterson look like tyson power wise Fighters in the past that would beat him Hearns Jones at 154 Leonard on work rate I think 140 cotto gives him fits Paul Williams- the most underrated fighter of all time destroys floyd
Sure. But again, he's proven himself to be the best at 154 and I've left it open for Floyd to do what he just did(and said he wouldn't do against Cotto) and have Martinez or GGG drain down(though he would get a good bit more credit if he went up to 160). It shouldn't be a stretch for someone who considers himself the GOAT to take on a challenge of this nature. SRL was also coming off a three year layoff and had fought Duran(x2), Benitez, and Hearns by that point. Floyd hasn't contended with any fighter on their level, hence Floyd despite his longer career hasn't had to take as much punishment feasting on lower level guys with his safety-first style. Nor is Martinez or GGG on the level of Hagler. And you're right, it's not necessary for Floyd to go up to Middleweight, or do anything else for that matter. As I said, he's still an ATG regardless of what he does from here on out. It's simply something that he "should do" if he actually cared about his legacy improving from a top 35 or so ATG to maybe a top 10 guy. And again, if you really discount Middleweight due to the size factor, there's still Pacquiao available within his weight range. He's faded clearly, but he's still a more interesting matchup than the aforementioned others, at least Floyd can say he actually fought him, and the fight would still sell like hot cakes. But Floyd doesn't want even that level of risk.
Ortiz was actually doing good and I don't know what really happened? Even with Mosley, he had a good hit and I don't know what happened? Those fights just showed no one is unbeatable because one good hit changes a fight but for some reason it did not go the distance with the expected intensity. Floyd's opponents just instantly change during the course of the fight???????
No he didn't and no amount of hate or wishful thinking will change it. In your mind he did but too bad for you that your opinion doesn't count and is irrelevant. What is relevant is the record book which has it 2-0 against JLC and 45-0 overall.:hi::deal