Joe Calzaghe v Roy Jones Jnr 2002

They say roy ducked everyone but how many of these bozos ever had a chance

Only guy who had a hope was McLennan and had he beaten benn he would've got a shot

Still would have lost,mind you

 

Roy got got schooled?

What FOUR years after Glen Johnson had knocked him cold?

Wow!

That was some feat wasn't it?

 

Roy didn't play the victim, and say that he missed the big fights because he was avoided.

Roy HAD big fights.

Joe said he wanted the big fights, but he never put himself in a situation where he could realistically get them.

Joe didn't really become famous on the world stage, until he'd beaten Lacy in 2006. But by that point, he was 34.

 

Calzaghe KO.

 

:rofl :rofl :rofl

 

I agree.

And there was no demand for the fight over here. Joe was obscure for the most part.

Calzaghe had appeared on a few cards I believe by that point, but that doesn't mean anything. Lots of fighters do that. Joe wasn't known because he hadn't beaten anyone of note.

One of the links that Ole Bailey used to post had an interview with Jones saying to the effect that at one point he had become aware of Calzaghe as a potential opponent down the road, but disregarded him after that due to Calzaghe taking a step back in his competition.

Where is that Bailey anyways?

 

Roy had a Glass Jaw and protected it his whole career ducking and dodging big fights. His whole career was smoke and mirrors.

 

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I know that you know this isn't true Rico.:yep

 

I heard he was forced to take a truth serum and is now in the fight of his life trying to re-convince himself of the 'facts'

 

It seems you struggle with facts, I try and stick to them, which is what seems to get to you

 

so instead of answering the question, you aim it right back at me? you're a great one aren't you.

if it's you that has the problem (which it clearly is) then it's up to you to prove it wrong. i'll await what other pointless **** you have to write.

it wasn't a full interview that the paper had with Joe you idiot, they never usually are. they just take certain quotes and fill in the rest. it was never meant in the way you think.

he's simply saying that he doesn't want the tough fights just for the sake of them, he wants to be paid as well. Boxers look to get paid properly. they always have, they always will.

if you don't think that's the case, then give me a list of fighters that take on the toughest with no care for the money side?

i won't hold my breath for an answer. you'll probably just send the question right back like a moron. :tired

 

yeah, you're right. i'm wasting my time because it's all bull**** with what i'm saying due to Joe being British. i'm like that you see. i don't have a life outside of trying to defend my countries honour.

where do these ****ing idiots come from?

 

you've got the original source for the first, but not the second.

how much is the crown jewels to you? because Joe was happy with the fight being made at this time. he even called Jones out, and had been since 2001. Wa55en offered Jones 5 million, what Joe was going to be payed was on Wa55ens shoulders. but i'm pretty sure it wasn't going be the same as Jones. he'd probably walk away with about 2 mill.

so again, if Joe never had a problem with this set up, what does the crown jewels mean to you? Joe was the one who claimed that Jones priced himself out of the fight, Jones later agreed when they all got together on Ringside. he agreed in the build up to their fight in New York.

he wanted twice as much as Wa55en was offering. but it just wasn't possible. and as i've said many times now, Jones not once made a counter offer.
Jones was happy for the fight to go ahead for 10 mill, so he had interest in the fight. but not so much that he would try to work things out by making Calzaghe an offer that he thought was fair. it was simply nothing.

the story of Roy's life. kind of strange that this happened far too much in Roy's career. but oh, it was never his fault was it? :-(

Benn got a title fight in his second fight, so it made sense to go over you doofus.

Bruno got a straight shot at Tyson.

Naz got signed by HBO for big money before the Kelley fight. so the money and fights were there.

Lewis HAD to fight in the US because that's where the Heavyweight scene was.

Hatton also had the big money fights right from the off because of the Tszyu fight.

so you've failed on all of these when comparing. don't worry though, you always do.

Joe would have fought over in the states if A) bigger money than he was getting at home was there. or B) he could get a straight shot at Jones or Hopkins.

we've already done this to depth, but still you show no shame. lots of Roy's opponents weren't known to the audience. but the crowd still came out and money was there.
Joe would have went straight up in weight if the Jones fight was on offer. the fact that you (yet again) don't understand this simple situation makes me worry for you. loads of fighters do it. it's very normal to get fights against the top guys even if you haven't fought at that weight.

there didn't need to be a demand for the fight. loads of big fights happen without there being a demand for it. it still would have sold out any of the big arenas with ease if Jones was facing the best guy from Supermiddle. the proof being that he did so when fighting unknown turkey's.

that's your answer to my question? "how was he well known exactly"?

by answering my question with another question?

you're the one who made the ****ing claim! GIVE ME ALL OF THE STATISTICS YOU HAVE ON JOE NOT BEING WELL KNOWN IN THE US. GIVE ME THIS KNOWLEDGE YOU HAVE.

did you understand that simple question? because i find you have great difficulty every time it seems.

again, he only got $17 million for the Ruiz fight. he'd never got anywhere near to that for any other fight. atsch but you like to keep on using **** like this to make your argument better. i wonder why that is, hey?

enlighten you? sure. Kessler, Lacy, Mitchell, Reid, Hopkins, Jones and Eubank. those fights happened straight away when they were willing. Collins would have been one but he decided to retire instead. that wasn't Joe's fault either.

Hatton could have made the Floyd fight straight after the Tszyu win. Floyd was interested, but Hatton first wanted to make a couple of defences.

do you never get anything right? atsch

you know what fights Jones ducked. i've given you that answer a few times now. i'm not giving it again.

Pudwell was a replacement you fool. but nice of you to once again try and twist things to suit ones argument. if you keep doing this every time, you're going to make me thing you're insecure.

Joe did talk about stepping up and fighting in America. but who was there over the pond to fight? the same guys that HBO were pissed Roy kept on fighting? yeah, great.
Joe wanted to fight Woods for the IBF, but he turned around and said that Joe needed to have a few fights at the weight first. even though Joe was the much bigger name. so it's a bit hard to move up when dealing with **** like this.

no, Joe didn't have the choices to unify and get the big fights. if so, tell me who called him out only to get blanked? you're the one who again made the claim, so give me this Knowledge you have.

Ricky didn't drop Wa55en because he wouldn't take him to America you plum, he dropped him because not long before the Tszyu fight, he went a bit stale from not getting the fights he wanted. the contract ran out, so Ricky signed up with Hobson.

no, you need to wake up. if those big fights were on offer to Joe, then you'd have no problem telling me WHEN, and WHO was there then?