Joe Calzaghe v Roy Jones Jnr 2002

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  1. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    You just tied yourself in a knot.. If Roy's belts at LHW were meaningless, then so was Joes!!!:patsch

    Look at the lineage.

    Ring magazinge belt.. Jones-Tarver-Johnson-Tarver-Hopkins-Calzaghe:deal

    As a matter of fact.. Jones held Calzaghe's ring LHW belt and the WBA HW title AT THE SAME TIME!!!:lol:
     
  2. Terror

    Terror free smoke Full Member

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    Joe clung onto a WBO title fighting considerably worse opposition than RJJ was. He's a Zsolt Erdei/Sven Ottke type more than he is a Jones, Toney, or Hopkins. He's definitely a class below in resume, power, and skills. He let go of boxing at the right time and was managed well before. He made a lot of money and hangs his hat on fighting B-Hop to a questionable decision, beating up old Roy Jones Jr. who was exceptionally shot and worse for wear than Calzaghe, and beating Kessler (who is good but no worldbeater himself). It's just a fact, when RJJ was popular and on top, Calzaghe was a protected domestic level fighter who wanted no part of Jones.

    Jones KO early, late, middle? Any time he picks up the pace and decides to give Joe a hiding. Joe would try to match him with style and end up going out like Vinny Paz.
     
  3. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    calzaghe would've been brutally stopped in the mid rounds. who was his best win...lacy? old man hopkins who put him on his ass? :rofl
     
  4. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You guys seriously think Jones would have beaten:


    MW:

    Benn
    McClellan
    Eubank

    SMW:

    Liles
    Collins

    LHW:

    Calzaghe
    Michalczewski
     
  5. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    well these guys never even fought at JMW so you need to go back to school, read up and ask a different question first.
     
  6. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Force his hand how?? As shown in the link Calzaghe was considered and the possibility of Roy dropping down. I think it said Something to do with LHW belts wouldnt be at risk that way, so force a hand how with that comment :patsch

    I dont think it would have been a good idea for Calzaghe to drop a belt and lose money to face a fighter that Eubank, Benn, Collins to name a few, never got to fight. You talk of mandatories but when did Nunn get his shot as a mandatory??

    Why should Calzaghe have moved anywhere when the fight was a possible at SMW and then LHW belts wouldnt be at risk

    I think as DM was at LHW and Jones was also, it would have been better if they had of fought each other as they were in the same division at the same time and Calzaghe in a completely different weight class
     
  7. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Of course it would have been better. And it should have happened. The question was what Calzaghe might have done if he truly wanted the Jones fight. Back then, anyway.

    Was it ever discussed? Was it a possibility? If so, any insight as to why it never happened B?
     
  8. Mr Pibb

    Mr Pibb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :deal:deal:deal
     
  9. Mr Pibb

    Mr Pibb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Joe was smart to stay in his WBO place.

    Calzhage is that dog that stops barking soon as you open the gate:lol:
     
  10. 46and0

    46and0 It's irrefutable. Full Member

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    Lolz @ all these bitter Rojos searching for any crumb of redemption for their ´roided hero. :oops::dead:patsch:lol:

    The fight did eventually go down. A shot, bloated, brittle-boned Calzaghe with Glass Hands gave Jones a frightful beating, lacerating his face and peppering his gormless bonce with crisp shot after crisp shot. :ko

    As for who would have won in 2002, the proof is in the pudding, and that pudding is the film tape showing Calzaghe put on an absolute masterclass. That is not conjecture, that is not heresay. That is iron-clad, delicious irrefutable scientific fact.:deal

    I must say that I have thoroughly enjoyed Rico Spadafora pwning every single poster in this thread. It really does make for terrific reading.:lol::rofl
     
  11. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    the science of a shithead then.
     
  12. 46and0

    46and0 It's irrefutable. Full Member

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    Are you actually going to man up, roll up your sleeves, get into the trenches, in order to indulge in some stirring boxing chatter? Or shall you insist on continuing to sling witless insults willy-nilly like some lobotomised berk?:lol::rofl:patsch
     
  13. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Only McClleleand and Eubanks gives. Jones so,e trouble and that it ..And joe would have never fought Roy at LHW in his prime !
     
  14. tennis

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    Jones attack is the most dominant attack in sports history

    Te closest kin would be fedor in his pride days
    Or tyson in his

    The difference is roy finished better than even them

    Sometimes he would connect with his legendary left hook on a fully guarded guy and they would react as though they had been hit flush on the chin

    I can't imagine how much power he had

    But it doesn't stopthere

    He had the audacity. To telegraph his straight right, hold it on front of the opponent for a second,with his hands down, and still connect flush to the face before they could get off

    Insanity, never before and never since.... Not with that kind of power

    Considering he was south paw traditionally, it's even better, I think it's safe to assume he was ambidextrous so both his hands were lethal

    He could generate power with little to no windup, that in itself is mind blowing- the only other guy I ever saw do that was Bruce lee in his training videos

    Roy's style was hated amongst the purest ( the same ******s who still claim he's overrated )
    Because he refused to use his jab

    The thing is, his jab was exceptional, but a jab is a range finder and a spacing tool, it's usually used as a set up... Roy's speed was such, that, he didnt need a jab to completely outhit someone

    If roy really needed it, he had the jab aswell.

    The other thing was, he allowed his opponents to walk him down, he literally would walk into ropes, this would be a death sentence for anyone else... For roy he was playing cat and mouse. Pretending to bethe mouse, his flurries of the ropes did as much damage as anything else.

    His style still is being understood to this day.

    I feel that after the toney fight, no one wanted to fight him, and he just didnt feel anyone in his weight class was worthy of him

    Had he gone up against prime lewis he would lose, simply because they out weighed him by 50 pounds, but that would be the only real challenge to a prime roy

    So he took the easier path... Which is a shame because he's the most talented boxer in boxing history

    Normally an atg has a nemesis

    Leonard had Duran
    Mayweather had Castillo
    Robinson had la motto
    Tyson had anyone over 6ft 3 with a jab

    Roy's era had two of the best middle weights of ll time

    Hopkins and toney

    Roy fought them at their best
    And made it look like they were amateurs

    Roy's biggest problem was that he was the best there ever was in the sport
     
  15. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    oh the irony in that statement that you aren't able to see.

    not gonna write drivel like you in this lifetime.