Gallagher Tactics

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Should have stepped on the gas earlier though to put it beyond any doubt.

 

Hearn didn't chose salinas he was mandatory as he was ranked number 2. It makes me laugh people criticise Gallagher because his fighters all fight with their face and rush forwards, then when quigg starts cautiously Gallagher gets criticised for that too

 

For me i believe Quigg and Joe felt they could use lateral movement and counter Salinas. Problem was Salinas was a bit more educated and technically refined then they thought. His footage in previous fights he showed glimpses of class but also could at times be crude.

In opening rounds he kept behind his jab and didn't really throw much else so it troubled Quigg who was waiting for mistakes of Salinas that wasn't there and he was a little tentative to attack due to Salinas offsetting him with jab and also not being a comfortable mover IMO he wasn't able to create angles to attack so it caused a major issue early on.

Once Salinas lost his form and Quigg settled down a little he started to break down Salinas to body. Salinas showed out a few times and Quigg got inside the longer arms and looked very good in there.

Problem as i say from my POV they was waiting for mistakes and was tentative in creatin the opportunities because they probably felt Salinas carried enough power to warrant cautiousness early.

I think people need to give some credit to Salinas for boxing relatively well in opening rounds and also Quigg not being able to create any opportunities off the back foot.

I think in hindsight they'd probably feel the tactics probably were little to cautious and made harder work of what in reality was a easier fight then it looked in opening four.

You live and you learn. Quigg won the fight for me BTW.

 

Great post. To go in against a guy like salinas and not be cautious would be foolish. What people don't give quigg credit for is his patience, and the fact that the Cuban didn't just stop in the middle rounds for the sake of it, it was down to quiggs presence. He has a way of forcing fighters back and tiring them without necessarily throwing. If you look at the Monroe fight he didn't do much early on but I think Brian Hughes taught him early in his career to be cautious a bit like in football if you don't concede a goal you aren't going to lose. We forget that quigg hasn't had many competitive fights most have been all his way, it's good he had to think on Saturday night and fights like this are needed in order to progress. These Cuban guys can make you look terrible if you allow it at least he didn't waste all his energy hitting fresh air for the first half of the fight he took his time and really should have got the nod

 

:thumbsup Sharpy....As usual your posts on this fight make a lot of sense. But in all fairness it has to be a concern that Quigg went round after round getting his face jabbed off without making any adjustment.
Yes salinas was very well schooled technically... yes he has a great jab etc etc and yes quigg might have failed to neutralise that jab no matter what he did.

What has to be a worry though is that Quigg did not even ATTEMPT any adjustment....even one that didn't work. They did nothing. NOTHING!
(Now in fairness I couldn't hear Joe Gallagher advice to Quigg in the corner.....maybe he was telling him what to do?).
But overall For a trainer aspiring to be world class, and a fighter ditto, this complete lack of a response to the problem has to be a concern.

You can talk about patience, tactics and pacing all you like but at the end of the day if your losing round after round and getting hit by the same punch over and over.....

 

:good Your right he will have learned a great deal from Saturday. Let's face it that was his first fight at real world class level.

I think Munroe by then had slipped somewhat to gatekeeper level. Quigg is learning on the job. He's had a strange career in terms of matchmaking with fights with Latin fighter mixed in and around domestic fights.

Him and Joe are young in there roles as fighter and trainer and they will know there was things on Saturday they could of done better and other things they done well.

 

If he didn't adjust and him being patient didn't pay off why on earth did the fight turn on its head in the middle rounds?!

I agree I think the plan wasn't a bad one just go away now and work on the negatives they can take from the fight

 

Lance what have you got against Joe, you always seem very critical?

Scott won a world title on Sat night.

 

as i said before lance is arny lance goes on first slaging people of then arny comes on arny hates joe he will sey check me out every one knows you can hav more than one name you will never be as good as mighty joe so leave him alone arny come on mighty joe:happy:happy:happy:happy

 

hope quigg fights frampton or martinez next.then he will be destroyed.i think he knows this,therefore i,l not hold my breath.

 

Why would you want Quigg to be destroyed? Quigg would do just as well against Kiko as Frampton did. Frampton vs Quigg is still a close fight.

 

Do you think he would spend 6 rounds getting hit by framptons right hand? A jab and a right hand are 2 different things and framptons right hand is fairly irrational it usually takes him most of the fight to land a good one. Certain opponents are harder to look good against than others, frampton and quigg would gel better in my opinion than quigg salinas

 

Irratic

 

This is the last time I put this I am not Lance I post under my own name Arnie, I have not made a secret about not getting along with Joe Gallagher, When me and Joe Murray were on the running track we let onto him and he ignored us so as far as I'm concerned he can go and Fxck himself. Like I said before I post under my own name why don't you post under your own name you coward.