Joe Calzaghe v Roy Jones Jnr 2002

Calzaghe always had Jones number. Nothing nobody can do, Joe was too good for Jones!

 

yeah I bet he kept jones phone number in his mobile to show off to his welsh drinking buddies.

But, no use having it if you aren't gonna phone him, since by Joes own admission he wasn't chasing Roy jones.

I bet Joe was always phoning Tocker Pudwill, mind you.

 

I think what Calzaghe did toward the end of his career was great. But if you think sitting on a fringe title for almost a decade, then moving up for 2 fights at lhw against a couple of old timers is representative of being a risk taker, at the same time pointing at a guy who jumped multiple divisions and being successful all the while is taking the path of least resistance, I don't know what to tell you. But it sounds disingenuous.

 

Kessler and Eubank were very good wins.. Eubank is a legendary fighter, that could very well have been a CW champ.. that one looks real good.. Kessler was a young undefeated champ, who would be a top contender in the next era, after Joe beat him, that looks good too..

I hold the Tarver win in a high regard when you look at all the circumstances involved, that Roy was in a HW title fight right before.. The rarity of that being done in the past gets extra points for me.. I think it is up there.

Virgil Hill also gets overlooked because DM outpointed him first, but the dramatic body shot was amazing, and Hill was still good enough to become a CW world champ..Though admitedly past his best.

 

None of these guys started their career at 154 lbs.. Spinks was a huge LHW, him moving up was not the same as Roy.. Byrd's body also grew into a more true HW body than Roy's, who was a small LHW.

Do you not realize that size matters in boxing?

Vitali quitting against Byrd would be like Oscar De La Hoya moving up to LHW and making Jones quit on his stool.:deal

Roy has way more heart that Vitali..:yep:good

 

All those big ogres were there to be held, none had Jones' foot speed... What don't you understand about that?
Jones had a combination of speed and power that Ruiz had never seen before, he froze up, and couldn't do anything... His corner was screaming at him as to why he was just standing in the center of the ring, trying to play Jones' game...:deal

You give Jones credit for nothing. The way he would back away while scoring with shots that were hurting Ruiz was a thing of beauty.. It is sad you can't see that.:-(

 

:deal

With OSDT Calzaghe outworks him to a UD.

 

deal:deal

 

quite true, no one is saying Joe was bad. He was a damn good opponent.

Joe will always be a great Brit to me but context is important.

 

I don't buy it M/R......Eubank was over the hill. He took the fight on short notice. He was done at smw. He was training for a fight at a higher weight. It was a good win for a young up and comer, but nothing beyond. He had no wins of note before or after that fight, although he did have some decent performances at a cruiserweight afterwards.

 

if roy had stayed at smw for 10 years that would have been such an MUCH MUCH easier path than the one he took, true.

but jones is not that kind of guy.

 

atsch:roll: You gotta to be fackking kidding me.You are a hypocrite and you are trolling BIG TIME.
You have no brain.None.

 

Rico Spadafora,

How many fights could Roy have realistically had at HW, at 34, after 50 fights?

Sanders was a dangerous fight for decent money.

A fight with Holyfield or Tyson would have been worth a lot more.

At that point, Roy just wanted a huge pay day. Mike was finished, but a Roy vs Tyson fight would have been HUGE!

Also, I've told you what feels like a million times, that Roy's initial target was Holyfield.

Now Roy could have fought Holyfield in 2002, for no belt, and then a hater like you, would probably have said something along the lines of "What's he fighting Holyfield for? He's shot, he lost to Ruiz, why doesn't Roy fight Ruiz?"

You're just a hater.

You keep going on about this trinket WBA belt.

Why did you want Roy to fight Sanders for $10m, for the lightly regarded WBO?

Your posts don't make sense.

Your hate throws all logic out of the window.

He wasn't going to stay there for a prolonged period, he wanted Tyson for mega money.

Again, why would he have fought Vitali?

What do you mean, when you ask "Roy loved to fight mandatories at LHW, what changed at HW?"

What happened is, when he went to LHW, he was only 27 years old. When he unified all three belts against Reggie Johnson, he was 30 years old. He had to fight mandatories, to KEEP all of his belts.

He stayed at the weight from 1996-2003. That's a 7 year period. He was comfortable at that weight.

Again, when he moved to HW, he was 34, he'd had 50 fights, and he won the WBA against Ruiz.

He was never realistically going to fight his mandatory at that stage of his career.

Time was running out for him. When he fought Tarver he was nearly 35.

Realistically, how many fights could a 35 year old LHW, have at HW, when he'd been a pro since 1989, with 50 fights on his resume?

He was trying to cash out.

It wouldn't have made sense to fight Byrd. Byrd would (in my honest opinion) have given Roy a much harder fight than Tyson, for a lot less money.

How many more times??

Ruiz wasn't handpicked!

Was he speaking literally? Was Lennox in 2008, when he said "Pay me $100m and I'll come out if retirement." ?

If that was Roy's DEMAND, then why did Lewis's team meet with Murad??

Why did Lewis speak to Roy??

Why have we never heard Lewis say "I wanted Roy, but he was being ridiculous with his demands, so I retired."??

Why did Mike bother to make numerous calls to Roy and Murad, and why did Mike meet Roy in Miami, to plan a potential fight for 2004?

Answer the questions.

 

:good

 

He was never going to fight Lennox at his first fight at the weight.

Was Byrd's belt more valuable than Ruiz's?

Now answer these questions, and show us all what a hater you are.

If the WBA was just a trinket, WHY did you want Roy to fight Sanders for the WBO?

Why did you want Roy to fight Vitali?


You've got a problem that Roy fought for the WBA, but you wouldn't have had a problem if he'd have fought for the WBO, or Vitali's intercontinental (or whatever it was) WBA title?

That makes perfect sense doesn't?