Joe Calzaghe v Roy Jones Jnr 2002

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  1. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ha! :lol:
     
  2. Loudon

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    :good
     
  3. BatTheMan

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    ROFL @ loudon saying that Jones was the man and not the lineal champ DM. Even more hilarious that the onus was on him and not Jones to make the fight.

    But we've heard that silliness before from him.
     
  4. Imperial1

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    Nobody thought Dm was the best lhw when Jones was on top ,not even Germany or Poland believed that .
     
  5. BatTheMan

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    He was the man you know. As in the man who beat the man who beat the man. Jones was a belt collector and was interested in big fat HBO checks. Checks they willingly signed for Jones fighting secondraters. And boy did Jones look great against those secondraters.
     
  6. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Why was Jones wiling to travel late in his career for big fights? Nothing stopped him from doing that when he was busy fighting Glen Kelly and Rick Frazier in half empty arenas.
     
  7. Mind Reader

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    It's very simple.. He was no longer holding the cards, not near as much of a risk, he had nothing to lose... This is how it works, I am surprised you don't understand that.

    But lets not act like he fought nobodies, at LHW.. I have already proved to you that the majority of his LHW competition was very good, and he made good money.... I am surprised you are willing to defend Calzaghe, who's competition was not consistently as good as Roy's and also was willing to travel late in his career, what stopped him from traveling to Jones and Hopkins earlier?

    It makes no sense how you defend Calzaghe at all costs, and bash the hell out of Roy at any chance.. The double standards you have are mind boggling.
     
  8. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Difference is Calzaghe had something to lose when he traveled and wasn't scared to do it. Jones was. And the Light Heavyweight Division Jones fought in was awful at the time. Lets not pretend it was a loaded Division. The fights were there for Jones his whole career he was too scared to take it. And we know why. That Chin is complete Glass.
     
  9. Mind Reader

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    The LHW division Jones fought in was much tougher than the LHW division Hopkins and Calzaghe fought in... And the SMW division Joe fought in...


    Hopkins was too scared to move up to LHW and fight Roy, he wanted the fight at 168, saying Roy was too big... After he moved up and beat an even bigger Tarver, he said after the fight he could have moved up 4 years earlier... Why didn't he?:huh


    Don't think for a second Joe didn't weigh the risks of traveling for Jones and Hopkins when he did, and decide the risk was well worth the reward.

    And lets not pretend Joe was ever known as the best fighter on the planet as Roy was.. Roy at his peak, had much more to lose than Joe, and held more cards.
     
  10. Mind Reader

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    I was also reading some of your other posts in an old thread, about how you said Calzaghe was going to smash Roy's glass jaw and KO him.. :lol:

    And he didn't take the Hopkins rematch in 02 because Hopkins would have KO'ed him.:rofl

    Neither of those would ever, ever happen.. and further proves your exaggeration that comes with your passionate hatred for everything that is Roy Jones.:deal
     
  11. Imperial1

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    You really think he was the best LHW on the planet at that time ? :lol:

    And Jones was far from a belt collecter he became undisputed LHW champ by beating guys that DM. Refused to face ..Lets make sure we get that clear !

    And funny but didn't Jones knock the guy out who DM beat to becoe champ ? Yeah I almost forgot how much of a second rater Virgil. Hill look liked when RJJ beats him but when DM scrapes a a win against him he beat the man who beat the man :rofl
     
  12. Mind Reader

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    Do you even know what the hell you are talking about? Or do you just repeat crap you hear?

    Look below, this is the top 10 LHW's by year... Blue- Roy beat.. Yellow-DM beat.. Red- They both beat.


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    Roy Jones Jr.
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    Michael Nunn
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    1999 @ LHW
    Roy Jones Jr.
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    Michael Nunn
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    2000 @ LHW
    Roy Jones Jr.
    Dariusz Michalczewski
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    Chris Johnson
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    Greg Wright
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    2001 @ LHW
    (Roy Jones Jr. - Champion)
    Dariusz Michalczewski
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    Bruno Girard
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    2002 @ LHW
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    Dariusz Michalczewski
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    Bruno Girard
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    George Khalid Jones

    Roy was the man, and p4p best... He unified all the belts, and fought better fighters... DM really doesn't have a great LHW resume at all, you can not stay unified champ fighting the fighters he fought.. No wonder he didn't travel to fight Roy, he didn't fight many of the division's best during this time.
     
  13. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    belts didn't matter. You know why?

    #1. The WBA & IBF were DM's

    #2. When there is a legitimate lineal champion the belts don't mean **** they were trinkets. Just like when Tyson unified at Heavyweight Spinks was THE champion.

    You seem to have a hard time understanding what being THE champion means. Roy was NEVER the Light Heavyweight Champion. Ever. Matter of fact he wasn't THE Champion in any Division he ever fought in. That is what happens when you are scared to make big fights. Larry Merchant called him out on this after the Frazier fight which Merchant apologized to the viewers for and called it "complete crap" :lol::lol::lol:
     
  14. realsoulja

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    No more rainbows Cruz just got KTFO.

    Rico, do you believe the lineal champion is always considered the top dog in the division?

    Like Spinks was the top dog and Tyson was a trinklet holder? :lol:
     
  15. Mind Reader

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    For one, the colors I highlighted proves, that Roy was fighting and beating better opposition than DM, It doesn't have anything to do with belts. Even with the facts in front of your eyes, you still can't realize how wrong and biased you are... DM was not beating Top opposition at the weight most of the time, and wasn't going after Roy, he was content doing what he was doing, being forgotten... Being stripped is one thing, but look at his resume, those belts would have NEVER been his fighting who he fought.. Roy's list of opponents are by FAR better.


    Also, if Roy was never THE LHW champion, then I would like you to explain to me how Joe was... You said Joe beat THE LHW Champion, how did he do that if Roy was never THE champ.. I whipped you on this, and you ignored it..

    You are too easy to school Rico, it is like teaching my 2 year old son.:lol: