Joe Calzaghe v Roy Jones Jnr 2002

the contract was already agreed to and signed by Sanders and Rodney Berman. The 10 mil + PPV upside was there belt or no belt. You realize that right? :rofl

 

this coming from the guy with the fake trophy sitting on his ikea particle board trophy case?

http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?t=488153&page=20

http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?p=15699363


you guys got destroyed on that thread.

feel free to reopen it if you want. i was having a lot of fun there.

http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?t=488153&page=27

 

You have repeatedly asked why Ruiz was handpicked, and questioned why he didn't instead fight Byrd or Sanders.

You've been tying yourself up, all throughout this thread.


You don't have to show me anything. I know Roy spoke of Sanders, and I know he backed out.

But why did he back out?

Because he wanted a mega money fight, and he wasn't going to get that against Sanders.


He wanted Tyson for huge money.

You've seen the links.

They met in Miami in 2003, and they both agreed that it wasn't viable to fight at that point, and a potential fight would had to have been for the following year in 2004. That's because Tyson wasn't in shape, he didn't have a trainer, he'd split from Finkel, he was up on an assault charge, and he was in the middle of a huge lawsuit against Don King.

Then in 2004, Roy got knocked out twice, and Mike was stopped by Danny Williams.



You've also seen links regarding the following:


Lennox (before he fought Vitali) saying that he was interested in fighting Roy, and possibly having TWO to THREE MORE fights.


Lennox saying that it would be a bridge too far for Roy.


Lennox (after he'd fought Vitali) spoke to Roy.


Murad Muhammad spoke to Lewis's team.


Lennox told Roy late in 2003, he probably wasn't going to fight again.


Lennox retired, giving a statement that said "I've no longer got the hunger, and I'm no longer motivated."



We've all seen those links from the Roy Jones thread from two months ago.


You want to use the Corrie Sanders links as EVIDENCE that Roy didn't want other HW fights, but yet you've totally dismissed around SEVEN other links, all discussing what I've wrote above.


So your link is valid, but mine aren't??


All the above is factual, and the old thread can be bumped at anytime.


Roy was nearly 35, he'd had 50 fights, and was a LHW.


Fights against Corrie Sanders didn't make sense at that stage of his career.



Finally, why have you only responded to one of my posts, when you had FOUR to respond to?

 

No he wasn't.. But he was considered The man at the weight.. He got that from beating the Hopkins, who beat Tarver, who beat Roy.

 

The trouble with Rico, Bailey and Assassin, is that they are now frequently saying that I'm only using my opinion, because they're losing the debate.

All three have been challenged to dissect my posts, to separate my opinion, from actual facts, and neither one has been able to.

 

He was never the man as in the man who beat the man. He was the biggest money fight though.

 

He didn't just go back to 175 you fool!

There's 7/8 links that prove you wrong.

 

Queeny, lets back up just a little a bit here and take a look at the recent chronological series of events.

1. Rico Spadafora made a ridiculous claim that Tyson's belts were trinklets when Spinks was the lineal HW champ, to which I posted my decisive refutation aka pwnage.

2. You then came and attacked my decisive refutation by agreeing with it atsch

3. Not only did you not attack my refutation of Rico's comments, you made one of the most weakest challenges in ESB history:-

:rofl

That is like Tocker Pudwill asking Mike Tyson to "come and get it". You need to stay in your lane son.

To proceed, I want to ask you the following question:-

Why did you attack my decisive refutation of Rico Spadafora's views, by agreeing with me?:think

And the answer to that is in your recent post:-

You still upset at getting owned in that thread you linked:deal Where you cowardly ran away from going toe to toe with me.

Also to further clarify, here is question number two:-

Who are you refering to when you said "you guys"?

Do you mean, me HEADBANGER and Mind Reader are part of the same teamatsch

Listen son, go back to the states coz them Mexicans have been putting some psychotic drugs in them burritos you been eating.

 

We've done it to death. The timeline is on post 487, on page 33, and all the links supporting it are on another thread.

He didn't want to appear on a double header with Roy, that would have led to a huge fight afterwards, but he was happy to fight Richard Hall twice, as well Joey De Grandid etc?

When Kerry Davis tried to make contact with DM's promoter, his calls were purposely ignored.

Peter Kohl admitted to ignoring the calls, because he was pissed that Roy had turned down previous offers to go to Germany, even though Roy had made it abundantly clear that he wasn't going to Germany.

It was a joke!

DM had disgracefully play acted against Roch to get him disqualified, and Roy said that he didn't think that a knockout would be enough over there.

Go and look at DM's resume.

It tells you what his true intentions were.

 

You call that a FACT?

So again, your link of Roy backing out of a Sanders fight is EVIDENCE.

But links of Roy meeting Tyson, Lewis speaking to Roy, Murad meeting with Lewis's team, and various statements by Lewis, ISN'T EVIDENCE??


You're going to stand by your link, but completely IGNORE 7-8 other links, through ignorance?

atsch


Guess what, there's a thing in life called CIRCUMSTANCES!


Is that what you're going to run with then?


Because Roy didn't have other HW fights, that's 100% PROOF that he had no intentions of ever doing so??


You must be related to Bailey. atsch

 

Jones was distespectful. Offering DM a slot at the undercard as if DM wasn't qualified. It was a joke man. Jones didn't want none.

It's not really surprising though. Jones made a career by avoiding the biggest threats in the division. He got lucky that Toney had all sorts of out of the ring problems so that he went in untrained and unprepared.

That was Jones best win.

 

toe to toe?

what kind of idiot tells someone to wreck a convertible benz?

http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?t=488153&page=21


what kind of idiot talks about their particle board ikea trophy case?

http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?t=488153&page=20


please reopen the thread if you want more abuse...son

http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?t=488153&page=27

and the name-calling; what are you...ten years old?

 

I have dissected your posts and shown you where you have tried using your opinion. I see it that you are losing the debate, so trying to use your opinion as an arguement because you have no other

 

Zero negotiations went on all we have is supposed vague 'talks'. Murad made a deal to fight Sanders and when everything was agreed to Jones pulled out. It is the only other fight he negotiated at Heavyweight other than Ruiz and he ran. It is a Fact. Do you understand this? Jones 'talked' with tons of different fighters/promoters/managers and not one damn fight ever happened. Why is that? The common denominator is a guy named Glass Jaw Roy Jones AKA Reluctant Roy Jones.