Joe Calzaghe v Roy Jones Jnr 2002

He weighed 199 pounds. The fact he was 160 pounds a decade before that means nothing.

Could he have made 160 in March of 2003? If so then yes I would agree he was a natural Middleweight.

 

So, when Roy was born and grew up, you are arguing he was a natural HW with a birth defect that made him light?

What did his natural BMI exact towards?

ok quick calculation on a BMI scale for a 5 foot 10 guy, roy was at ideal weight both as a MW and a SMW. At LHS he was borderline obese , obviously LHW was bordering on NOT his natural weight.

Using the BMI calculator for going up to 199lbs or above makes Roy obese, physically you are damaging his body doing so If roy was to go to the doctor he would ask roy to lose weight quickly.

I think this evidence, medical evidence kinda supports what Mind reader is saying, you know. It certainly doesn't support you, Rico. Having said that BMI is not the be all and end all of health estimation.

 

Yes or no in March of 2003 could he have made 160?

 

anyone at 200 lbs can make 160 lbs if they started at 160 lbs. anyone in the world.

The question is can he still fight at that weight. Is this what you mean?

 

Rico appears to have left the building when talk once again got scientific.


(no, I get it, hes reading up on terms he doesn't understand like 'BMI')

 

I am sure his mentality changed.. When he was at HW, he was known as the best P4P fighter in the world, he was on top, and looking to retire that way..

Getting knocked out certainly changes that.

That is your opinion.. But I have read enough and remember from that time that Roy was looking to get another HW fight.. It had to be the right one though.

 

This is a Boxing forum right? So yes I was asking if he could fight at 160. Your question along with bringing 'BMI' into the equation is ******ed. You might need to do more research on the BMI calculator.

 

Am I supposed to believe, had Roy picked Byrd, that you wouldn't be here anyway, saying that glass Jaw Roy picked Byrd because he was the smallest, feather fisted champ there was? And that he was afraid of Ruiz who had a higher KO ratio and liked to maul his opponents?

Haters find a way to hate... We both know I am right.:yep

 

yes and boxing is directly related to the health sciences. What is your problem with the health sciences? Do they not apply to your posts?

my answer included NO reference to BMI. I wrote, and I quote "anyone at 200 lbs can make 160 lbs if they started at 160 lbs. anyone in the world. The question is can he still fight at that weight. Is this what you mean? "

WHERE IS THE WORD BMI IN THIS POST? BE SPECIFIC. No, its not there.




and now.... regarding my use of the BMI in a DIFFERENT post - no its not ******ed to consider BMI in a sport where peak health is premium. BMI is used universally around the world as an estimate to human health. Is this 'BMI is ******ed' theory of yours another one of your get out clauses when you don't have an answer?

 

Bat's credibility has plummeted severely as he's aligned himself with racists and bigots. To bad, he use to be a decent poster. :-(

 

Bat the man claimed that Micheal Spinks could fight at MW today...

Do you believe this?

 

yeah I didn't appreciate the outright lie, it cuts.

People make totally forgivable mistakes but that obviously wasn't one.

 

BMI is hugely flawed not only for athletes but for all other things it is basically a running joke for physicians in the US now. Where are you located?

I replied to both posts since you acted like I ran off. And yes this is a Boxing forum I was asking if Glass Jaw Roy could fight at 160 in March of 2003. I mean it is his natural weight right? :rofl

 

What. Lol.

So I wrote several instead of couple. Big deal. He was at SMW for several years prior though. Makes no difference to the point.

So SMW was weak (according to you), and yet Jones didn't fight the top guys. What does that tell you about his tenure at the weight?

Disagree. He absolutely did not try to do to much. He could have done so much more.

 

tell me how being classed as obese for a 5 feet 10 inch boxer is an ok thing. go ahead.
(edit - I am in the UK, sorry I missed answering that question first time).

His natural weight would be the best thing for him healthwise and would be entirely achievable, as it is for anyone.

Fats no problem if you have enough willpower, a year is enough trim it off BUT the return to size for organs, bone density and other tissue would take years to effect. A quick fix back to his old weight would ruin him, whilst a slow, healthy fix would not leave enough time for him to have a career at MW at the age of 35. To fight at MW again would take a much longer time than he had left in his career, but its definitely his natural weight.

That's just the tip of the iceberg. Remaining at excessive weight as a result of suspected steroid use can be life threatening.