Joe Calzaghe v Roy Jones Jnr 2002

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  1. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Is that all you can muster up as a reply? :lol:

    I was referring to a Tyson fight! :patsch

    All your posts are littered with biased opinions that are ridiculous and illogical. :good


    In your World:


    Joe scrapes past a 43 year old Hopkins = A great win, that takes balls.


    Roy dominated a HW at 34, after 50 fights = It was Jay Nady's fault.


    Ha!
     
  2. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    How could they have been any contracts??

    One minute Lennox was going to fight three more times. Then he was interested in a Vitali rematch. Then he wasn't, and was interested in Roy. Then he wasn't sure if he was going to fight again.

    But you've got proof that Murad spoke to Lewis's team, and that Roy spoke to Lennox.

    That's not my opinion, we've seen the various links supporting this.


    Find me a link where Lewis says that he was going to fight Roy/was interested in fighting Roy, but Roy priced himself out etc. :good
     
  3. Loudon

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    There's various links that say otherwise, as well as the opinion of Alton Merkerson.

    Again, you're riding high on your link, but you're going to pretend that mine don't exist. :lol:
     
  4. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Just because Golovkin and Tyson have similar KO ratios does not mean they were/are similar fighters.

    - Ali Raymi has 100% KO ratio and is not comparable with Tyson.
    - Deontay Wilder has 100% KO ratio and is not comparable with Tyson
    - Vitali Klitsckho has a similar KO ratio with Tyson, but both are complete different type of fighters.
    - Joe Calzaghe at 27-0 had 23 KO's, and Golovkin at 27-0 has 24 KO's but both fighters are not similar.

    Point: Having one similarity with Tyson does not make you Tyson

    According to your logic, Mayweather is similar to Tyson because they are both black and cash cows.

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    Having KO power in both hands does not mean Golovkin is similar to Toney.

    Maidana vs Broner for instance, who is James Toney more like?

    The aggressive shoulder roll style would tell you James Toney is more like Broner, but according to your logic because Maidana has KO power in both hands he must be more similar to James Toney.

    - Vitali has KO power in both hands and is complete different fighter to Toney.
     
  5. Mind Reader

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    :lol::rofl
     
  6. Loudon

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    WHAT??

    Spinks used to walk around between 180-190 pounds.

    How the hell would he be at 160 or 154 today? Ha! :lol:
     
  7. realsoulja

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    Just because you don't have the natural ability, the fundamental tools nor the intellectual wit to be able to use such advance pwnage techniques there is no need for you to be crying about this :| :-

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    You decided to step into the ESB squared circle, and then get upset because I used some baffling switch hitting tactics. That is like:-

    - Macklin saying to Golovkin, "whats with the hard body punching? You dont see me doing that now do you":lol:
    - Peter Manfredo saying to Calzaghe, "whats with the thousand slaps per round? You dont see me doing that now do you":patsch
    - Julio Cesar Chavez saying to Pernell Whitaker, "whats with the fighting in the southpaw stance? You dont see me doing that now do you":rofl

    If you step into the ESB squared circle with a legendary veteran who has mastered the art of ESB pwnage at multiple levels, expect to be battered from different angles, confused by noble switch hitting and even roughed up by the occasional low blow.:vonnecunt:deal If you find this sort of mauling too much, step down a few levels and debate with some of the ESB sewer rats in the Aussie side of the Forum.
     
  8. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    You are being ridiculous!
     
  9. Quincy K

    Quincy K Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    never said ggg was tyson. i said that you could put him in the same sentence as tyson. "ggg has the same one-punch power in both hands."


    how do you compare a persons skin color and profitabilty, mayweather and tyson both being black and cash cows, to my comparason of tyson and ggg having very similar ko ratios at their repective points in their careers?

    by your logic, using skin color as a comparason as opposed to my logic of using ko ratios, you would be made to believe that will smith could be compared to mike tyson. after all, theyre both black and cash cows, right?

    toney and ggg have ko power in both hands. that doesnt mean that they are the same...it means that they both share this similar trait. the key word being similar in power and both hands and both have composure.

    ggg taking his time disposing of matthew with compusure making every punch count.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOaWytP5xwA

    vitali was not a one-punch power puncher.

    klitscho broke you down and ko'd by accumulation.

    he is not to be compared to as a tyson or ggg.
     
  10. Quincy K

    Quincy K Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    so using underlining, capitilization, colors and name-calling is considered powning? you took 24 hours to come up with this? after you had a mental breakdown with that post of yours like a woman scorned by her boyfriend?

    http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?p=15742597#post15742597


    good grief you are a fool.

    like i said before.


    december 31, 2013.

    whoever has the least amount of vcash leaves the forum. ill lower my vcash total to 353 the same as yours.

    yes or no.

    you can be a little girl now and not accept the bet or take your ineveitable as-s kicking at the end of the year.
     
  11. Loudon

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    Where are you getting this from?

    Chavez boils himself down to 160, and walks in the ring as a 175 fighter.

    So with a same day weigh in, he'd be fighting at 175.

    Spinks's walking around weight was 180-190, at 6'2.

    If he was fighting today, he wouldn't be boiling down to 160, to then rehydrate to 175.

    The likelihood is, he'd still weigh in at 175, just earlier, with a little more time to rehydrate.

    It would probably have been impossible for him to hit 160.


    As Mind Reader has also mentioned, everyone has different frames.

    Hopkins is slightly taller than Calzaghe, and he fought at 160.

    But Joe's natural walking around weight, was just over 14 stone, at 6ft.

    He always had a hard time making 168, and in his last few years at the weight, he literally had to starve himself.

    There's no way Joe could have fought regularly as a 160 fighter.
     
  12. Loudon

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    What are you trying to prove here?

    He beat the best guy in Toney, and then moved up and unified at 175, because he couldn't deal with King at the time.

    If I bump the old thread where you've said the likes of Ray Close were deserving of a fight with Roy, it's going to make you look silly.
     
  13. Mind Reader

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    Isn't that hilarious..

    I have never seen a claim made like this in my life...

    Spinks could have only made MW by cutting off a leg!:lol:

    That guy was very big and trimmed for a LHW.
     
  14. Loudon

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    It's not plausible that a 6'2 guy, who walked around between 180-190 pounds, could weigh in at 160.

    What advantage would he have gained?

    It would probably have killed him, even trying to hit it.

    There wouldn't have been any point.

    Every fighter is different.


    I watched a Bob Foster documentary a few months ago. He said that even if he had 6 weeks out of the gym, he never went above 179.

    Every fighter has a different set of circumstances surrounding them.
     
  15. Mind Reader

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    Quincy,

    Betting your esb existence is not the same as Soldier betting his.. He is a reliable source for knowledge and groundbreaking evidence... He is the only poster to debate team Elite to a draw.... Esb is a better place with him.:deal