when did boxing become about hittingbsnd not being hit?

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  1. anton

    anton Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yea i know its the sweet science in all. But boxing began about pride and machoisum if thats even a word lol. Boxing at its core is two men hiting each other to see who gets the better ifvthe other. Later it became about hit and not be hit? The sweet science. I know its better to hit and try not to be hit but two men fighting using fist ur gona get hit. Want to know peps opinions on this.
     
  2. boxerlove

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    Because it doesn't hurt if you don't get hit.
     
  3. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    If you effectively neutralize everything your opponent does, you're not getting hit and therefore getting "the better of it", no?
     
  4. Gil Gonzalez

    Gil Gonzalez Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    :nono The sweet science is as old as science itself.


    "... Eratosthenes says, as Favorinus quotes him, in the eighth book of his Universal History, that Pythagoras of Samos was the first man who ever practised boxing in a scientific manner, in the forty-eighth Olympiad...." -- Diogenes Laertius, historian, [url]
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  5. anton

    anton Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I know this. But ur gona get hit . When boxer say boxing is about hiting and not getting hit. When boxing stared it wasnt about that. It evolved into that yea but its not how it began
     
  6. #1Rounder

    #1Rounder Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yea i've always wanted to bring this up when guys start bashing two men going to war.. and defend the "Boxing is about hitting n not getting hit" bull****...

    Boxing started with two guys face to face toeing the line and may the baddest man win...

    Somewhere along the line some *** decided he didn't want to be hit and started running...
     
  7. anton

    anton Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yea just confuses me when they say this.
     
  8. anton

    anton Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Imagine rocky marciano and joe frazier . Say boxings about hitting and not beimg hit.
     
  9. anton

    anton Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Even the great trainers say it too. Boxings about hitting snd not getting hit. Really the sport was created by precisley the opposite
     
  10. anton

    anton Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yea im sure thats how boxing started two men say lets hit each other but dont hurt me lol
     
  11. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Boxers never stood on a line, ignored defense, and slugged. Never.

    Mendoza used head movement, "running", leaning forward to protect his body, and a high guard with raised elbows to deflect punches. That was in the 1790s. It's the earliest boxing manual that survives.

    Broughton certainly used defense and footwork when the sport first became popular in the 1700s. Probably fencing footwork, but still footwork. Even Figg, who started the sport in the early 18th century, knew how to defend himself from punches. He definitely knew how to clinch, since he was a pretty good wrestler.
     
  12. antonio plaisir

    antonio plaisir the detonator Full Member

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    the word you're looking for is machismo.

    do you possess evidence of how boxing started?
     
  13. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Okay, then. Professional boxers never fought with "machismo", if you define "machismo" as standing still and letting the other man hit you repeatedly.

    Yes. The sport of boxing as we know it dates back to Figg in the 1700s. It's pretty well documented.
     
  14. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I dont mind the "hit and not get hit" approach, but some people think that is the same as "don't hit, and not get hit".

    The primary goal in fighting is to inflict damage, the secondary is to avoid it, if you can do both, great. When you are throwing less than 20 punches per round and constantly running away, then you are playing tag.
     
  15. antonio plaisir

    antonio plaisir the detonator Full Member

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    i was responding to opening post.