The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

Fight will happen Money will UD him it will look easy and everyone will say he waited till PAC was old. Truth is he was all ways better than PAC . Don't hate just enjoy greatness .

 

Pac is going to beat Rios. This is a fight that is overly hyped. The winner should take on Bradley and then move on to Mayweather.

 

"No chance in hell" is a bit of an overstatement when we gauge the chances of Pac over Mayweather.
"An overwhelming amount of odds in favor of Mayweather" would be more proper, but that being said, we've seen countless upsets in this sport to not understand that somebody on the level of Pac can make something happen that can tip the scales just a little more in his favor and make it a 50-50 fight.

I dislike it when people compare JMM and Mayweather as if all counterpunchers fight the same.
FMJ fights NO WAY like JMM, and only the real fans of the sport understand that.
Because if all counterpunchers have an overwhelming advantage over Pac, then Clottey should've pulverized Pac.

It's like saying Pac fights similarly to say, Tyson, since they are both aggressive fighters.
There are tons of variables that make up a fighter's "style" and just saying "he is a counterpuncher" is generally oversimplistic.

For instance, Pac is a middle ranged, offensive southpaw swarmer.
He uses awkward angles, volume punching and fluid and quick in-and-out movement to take advantage of fighters that do not have excellent lateral movement.
Pac is a master of foot placement, very few people understand that his foot positioning is the key to his awkward angles.
The downside to this is since he is too aggressive in getting the better foot positioning to fire his combos, his stance is very square so he is open to counters just as he is stepping in, and just before he steps out.
He compensates for this by sheer foot and hand speed, good feints, good head movement and by throwing somewhat effective jabs (to confuse opponents not named JMM).
On the flip side he is also a pretty good counter puncher when he wants to draw an opponent in. He throws lead lefts and counter right hooks quite effectively.

Simply categorizing Pac as an "aggressive fighter" will be a huge generalization to his actual "style".

Styles make fights, true, but there's no simple rock-paper-scissors diagram that caters to all fighters. It's very specific to the the detailed elements of a pair of boxers' fighting styles.

 

:good:good

 

Mayweather will never fight Pac unless he loses some more fights. Void is afraid of Pac because styles make fights and Pac is the wrong style for Void...........

 

There's no intrigue watching Mayweather school an overrated fighter

 

Not gonna happen unless he leaves Bob(Which he won't because he has a life outside boxing and he can't focus on it by himself)

 

with all that, you still didn't highlight what makes JMm and Mayweather so different as counter punchers.

 

Bogotazo already put up a well received technical summary regarding that before, I'd hate to type everything again. Pretty good stuff, complete with gifs and videos (until the ***** parade went marching in and started posted one liners). I'll try to search for it.

Lots of good inputs from both sides of the fence too, but bottom line is, JMM's style is more suited to neutralize Pac than Mayweather's, highlight on JMM's mastery of lateral movements himself (which is why tards would often accuse JMM of stepping on Pac's foot, they were simply battling for position), unlike Floyd who would most likely "freeze" (as in using the shoulder roll too much, even when in high guard against a southpaw) and/or retreat in straight lines -- a gold mine for Pac's left.

JMM would out-position you by stepping to the side and will use your momentum to deliver combos, WHILE you are still in the middle of your offensive, as opposed to FMJ who will use the jab to control the distance (which a gold mine for Pac's right hook, see Judah's KD of FMJ), then pot shot with laser accurate rights AFTER an opponent deploys his offensive arsenal and FMJ evading/rolling all of it.

 

somebody get this old fa.g some new material....he's stuck.

 

That's all good and well but to think that floyd waits until you're done punching to fire his counter is erroneous!
And if Floyd freezes, punch comes, a lot of times he ducks under it and, instead of retreating, he steps forward to make sure you don't have room to throw more punches... And floyd has great lateral movement when he decides to move around.... And that's a nightmare Pac hasn't quite figured out how to deal with yet... He's pretty inept at cutting off the ring

 

Floyd: Eat my ****.

*****s: OK

 

floyd ain't fighting pac....too risky.

 

I've already said Floyd controls the distance with his jabs -- that includes disrupting the opponent's combos.
But when his opponent is already firing at him, that's when he tends to freeze up.
Stepping forward won't be a problem since Pac will most likely pivot to the side anyway, that will actually open FMJ to a short cross or hook once Pac steps to the side -- unless of course FMJ will tie Pac down.
But more often than not, Mayweather will retreat in a straight line, all the while tensing up in his shoulders and if he finds himself reacting to a Pacquiao feint, a solid left will connect to his face shortly after. (This is exactly why Mosley went down against Pac, he was retreating backwards and bit to a Pac feint)

FMJ does have excellent ring generalship, and that is my exact sentiment -- FMJ will win by pot shot-ing Pac and then dancing away or hugging Pac.
It's gonna be one hell of a boring fight.
Question is just how much of that he can still do against a whirling dervish who wouldn't quit on you? We've seen lesser fighters who are more suited to be negated by FMJ's style to stay on him and connect, what more Pac?

And of course, we can be assured that Roach will give very specific instructions to improve Pac's main problem of cutting the ring.

But hey, that was my thoughts on a post Cotto version of Pacquiao.
Both of them are now very watered down version of themselves, with Pac obviously declining more than May.

With that, I think we can safely say that JMM and FMJ, again, fights very differently.
And you can't create a premise for FMJ defeating Pac based on JMM's success over Pacquiao because of the oversimplistic reason that they are both counter punchers.

 

Floyd has already stated Bradley and Pac are off the table because of the promotional company they are with....so there ya go.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPapLqFFync