Which boxers could complete a 100 man kumite?

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  1. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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  2. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    The reflexes. The insane, inhuman reflexes...
     
  3. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Holy ****!

    That sequence from 1:01 is f'n insane!


    Edit - the whole thing is insane. Damn
     
  4. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    Samart was just an exceptional athlete. He was a Muay Thai great that was good enough to ko Lupe Pintor in a boxing match. The way he altered his style, and stance, in respects to both sports was amazing. All Muay Thai greats are variable forms of in your face toughness. Samart was no exception there. However, he was a bit different with his approach to western boxing. He assumed more of a side stance, and moved around a lot more.
     
  5. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    I'd enjoy seeing him fight the top boxers from his era (at least those close to his weight) under full MT. One-sided, but fun.

    You've got to wonder whether Samart was thinking to himself in the ring, "If only I could just clinch and knee this *******..."
     
  6. Greco

    Greco Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not if he had to go up against Frank Dux. That mother ****er knew the dim mak.
     
  7. boranbkk

    boranbkk "ไม่ได้โม้นะ" Full Member

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    Your right Rev mate he moved in a pretty unconventional way for an MT fighter, but he's not alone. There are 3 other greats that spring to mind who were "unorthodox" movers, who each had an unreal and uncanny natural ability to fight and to win in style no matter what the scenario. Each had perfect technique with individual weapons yet all fought in a complex super technical, fluid yet very very unorthodox manner, but that's what you get with true natural born fighters: As well as Samart, Poot Lorlek, Somrak Khamsing & Seanchai Sor. Kingstar. Except for Seanchai the other 3 have all had success as crossovers into western boxing & except for Somrak the other 3 are all leading candidates for the MT G.O.A.T. All 4 were super tricky, highly technical liquid whirlwinds of hellfire.

    I'd pick all 4 for the kumite CC asked about. :deal

    It's interesting you say that CC cos what alot of people don't realise about Thai MT fighters is in Thailand the only heavy sparring a fighter will do and usually 3 times a week is with only his hands (in headgear and 16oz gloves). All MT fighters have sparred 1000s & 1000s of heavy contact boxing rounds so are very familiar with the concept of hands only fighting. Many say they find it "easier" as you don't have to concentrate on so many weapons, but then again many have never fought a boxing bout only MT bouts and most still actually feel more comfortable using their feet knees and elbows over their hands. Actually Samson Issan - Dutchboy Gym (another MT ATG boxing crossover) said he found boxing technically harder, but then again that's probably only because he'd been brought up fighting MT since the age of 9, it's pretty hard to break heavily ingrained old habits.

    The reason Thais only spar heavy with just hands is cos in Thailand the fighters will probably fight at least once a month so injury will seriously affect your livelihood & in the heat swelling, cuts and bruising takes longer to heal. Everything interms of contact is done in a very controlled technical manner. Sparring with feet and knees is usually done with no protection in a super fast almost tit for tat very fluid manner with a heavy focus on feints, technique and speed. The clinch sparring is probably the single most gruellingly exhausting aspect of real MT training and goes on for ages with a heavy focus on the many technical aspects of the clinch, throws, trips, locks etc with the knees again being thrown with speed & controlled contact, although the contact is pulled it still has some spice on it so as to condition the torso a little to punishment.
     
  8. beast boxer

    beast boxer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Jack Dempsey has scored the most 1st round KO's of any boxer in history I think, so he would be a good shout with his vicious punching power. I don't know what his stamina was like though because he said he only ran 1-2 miles every day in training camp even though some fighters in his day used to clock up 150 miles a week.
     
  9. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ricardo Lopez. Height, technique, defensively sound and possessed power in both hands. Unless you require him to fight heavier guys, or Jung Koo Chang, I think he completes the test without too much difficulty.