Is it really irrational to say Pacman was on PEDs?

I was never suspicious based on his accomplishments. To be honest, I was shocked when the testing became an issue for him during the Mayweather negotiations.

It was his actions, outside the ring, that made me suspicious.

 

While Marquez was most likely on PEDs. We could accuse fighters of being on PEDs all day long.

 

Irrational? No.
Mostly because of his stupid excuses.

But if you're basing your allegations from Sr's and Jr's "depth and breadth of wisdom" then you're mightily stupid.

 

This.

 

Marquez has the highest probability of being on PEDs

If there is any suspicion on Pac, so does Mayweather. Mayweather was caught having three samples test positive for PEDs in the past (look it up) but Golden Boy helped sweep it under the rug. Golden Boy has a contractual agreement with USADA where only they get test results before they decide to test further. After Mayweather's samples came back positive, GB decided to hide the results through a contractual loophole. This is why USADA allowing these bull**** contractual loophole agreements makes it not as legit as VADA

After Pacquiao's lawyers got this story to research further, Mayweather and his team settled the case immediately and this is highly suspicious.

 

You know he beat the lineal champion at 19 right? At that time he was just pure raw talent, before he hooked up with Freddie Roach. He started boxing professionally at 16 and was underweight.


At least come up with reasonable arguments, my god.

1) As for why he got KO'd at those weights, its boxing, anything can happen, and also you are aware he was severely dehydrated for one of those KO's? That's why he lost his belt at the weigh in and jumped 2 weight classes the fight after.

Anyways, please tell me what PED it is that gives you granite chin? Oh yea, there isnt one.

Also would you mind telling us when exactly it is he started taking PED's? Was it when Ariza joined? Well before Ariza he was already a HOF'r and went up 5 weight divisions, was he on drugs prior to that? So if he was on drugs vs MAB 10 years ago, why didnt Fortune who has a massive falling out with team Roach say anything?

2) He didnt refuse blood testing, he agreed to 3 testing, 2 weeks before the fight and one straight after the fight in the locker room + unlimited urine testing. Now consider the following:

- Before blood testing was even brought up, we have a video of Pacquiao blaming his Morales loss to blood testing days before the fight, for HIV test. So as you can see, he's coming from a point of paranoia from past experience and this experience happened way before the floyd-pac issue even came in.

- He agreed to random testing up until 2 weeks before the fight, and straight after the fight. Now think logically with at least an IQ of above 50, does this sound like someone trying to get some drugs past the screening process or does this again coincide with his reasons for not taking blood test days before the fight, ie he believes it weakens him. Any effective drug use would be used year round, during training camp and taking drugs 2 weeks before the fight that HAS to be cleared by fight night would have near 0 effect. A guy who's trying to juice isnt gonna agree to unl random testing up to 2 weeks before the fight AND unl urine testing. Bare in mind most cheaters so far as been caught by urine testing by VADA. If anything, its damm obvious he's going with the story of, test me however you like, just not that close to the fight cos I dont want a repeat of Morales.

- This was before testing became norm, and he became a target of the Mayweathers because of his accomplishments.

- He has NEVER said he was afraid of needles. Never. Go find a quote from him directly. His excuse has always been the same, no blood withdrawal so close to the fight.

3) How does he decline? They brought up PED's post ODLH/Hatton. He destroyed Cotto, Margarito, Clottey and KD Mosley, and oh he dominated the current p4p #3. Sure JMM beat him but he was beating JMM up before the KO and if anything JMM, is the one who has to be on PED for obvious reasons. On top of that, JMM on PED or not, has ALWAYS given him trouble.

Pac destroyed MAB, yet drew with JMM, same JMM squeezed an SD vs MAB. Its obvious JMM has Pac's number, and thats that.

There just isn't any good argument for him being on PED, if you really look at all you reasonings, every single one was shot down and it same **** people come up with everytime to accuse.

Now JMM is a different story, you hire a PED expert who makes a claim that he has 20+ undetectable drugs, you try hide his identity. On top of that Memo confesses that the top 10 sprinters in the world HAS to be on juice, 100% guarantee, and then he's currently working with Usain Bolt so it doesnt take Einstein to deduce from that he is still supplying juice to athletes. Of course we can just assume that a guy willing to take his own urine hired a PED expert, but refused his PED's and simply hired him for a job a gym teacher could have done for him.

 

You don't know this for a fact. This entire thread is based on conspiracies and some sources say Mayweather tested positive 3 times in the past so look it up and it's certainly not irrational to think he was on PEDs.

 

I don’t think it is fair to assume that he used steroids because of the range of weight classes over which he was successful. While it is rare for this sort of thing to happen, it was happening before steroids were even invented. Sam Langford being a case in point.

 

Proof that Mayweather failed 3 test?

 

you and your ***** logic.atschatschatschatschatschatschatschatsch

 

1995 he turns pro
2010 he fights at welterweight for first time against clottey
thats 15 years

and your dumb ass says "all the sudden he gains 40 pounds"
i guess if all the sudden is over 15 years you may have a point atsch