Is it really irrational to say Pacman was on PEDs?

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  1. nutnfancy

    nutnfancy Guest

    Agreed. I don't think it is irrational to think any professional athlete is using peds. In the case of Pacquiao, it seems especially suspicious.
     
  2. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Yeah he was suspect. Anyone who declines testing is suspect. With that said he was far too flawed and limited to beat once. Anyone who thinks otherwise is fooling themselves.
     
  3. modernfonzie

    modernfonzie Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree.
     
  4. GoodOldBoy

    GoodOldBoy Active Member Full Member

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    Way it looks to me is Floyd was just a tiny bit worried about losing. I am not saying that Floyd believed that he was going to lose but he had a hint of doubt. Floyd therefor wanted a psychological advantage and so he attempted to bully Manny into agreeing to unusual PED's testing after the contracts for the fight were practically set in stone. Manny however did not want to put his tail between his legs and beg for the money cause after all if he had agreed to that requirement from Floyd there would surely have been more requirements coming his way.

    In other words. I don't believe that there is any proof for Manny using PED's and I do believe that a case can be made for Floyd having ducked Manny.
     
  5. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    of course its not irrational to suggest it... considering ward and marquez get blasted as PED users for doing alot less..
     
  6. modernfonzie

    modernfonzie Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That goes both ways though, Pacquiao wasnt the first fighter that was asked to agree to RBT. I just dont see why it would be a problem if you really want a fight. Especially when you're not the bigger draw.

    He earned the right to make demands, the same way he gave in to demands to get the DLH fight.
     
  7. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    PED's exist in Boxing. It is not out of the realm of possibility to suggest that many World Champions are on some form of PED's be it steroids, hGH, EPO, etc.

    We have seen detailed logs for fighters like Mosley and Gamboa posted online of what they were taking.
     
  8. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Of course its irrational Its become standard procedure these days to accuse any fighter that beats the crap out of your fighter of cheating. Pac is using PED's Tony Margarito loaded his gloves etc Margarito had his career derailed & was banned for 2 years with absolutely no proof he ever did anything illegal. The proof it was all false accusation came when the CSAC were asked to produce the so called loaded pads as no one other than the lab had seen them. The embarrassed CSAC rep stuttered err err we don't have them any more they got MISLAID!!!!!!! Yeah sure Both Nazim Richarson & the CSAC should have been banned of that crock
     
  9. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'm one who thinks the goods on Margarito were never detailed and delivered. "Substance thats contained in plaster" or some sort of **** like that, but never offering to point blank say his wraps were loaded with plaster.

    In any regards I dont appreciate lies being spewed whether it benefits Margarito or not.

    I never heard of the CSAC misplacing the pads, where are you getting this crap from????
     
  10. shanahan14

    shanahan14 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Don't compare Pacquiao to Barry Bonds. And Bonds did fail tests before, goo look it up. Bonds has multiple professional athletes saying they saw him use and Bonds actually admitted to using...just unknowingly. So get your facts straight.

    Onto Pacquiao, he was 4'11 and 98 pounds at 16 years old.....when he turned pro. At 16 years old, I was 6'0 150 pounds. I'm 6'3 205 now. You think Pacquiao was supposed to grow 7 inches and not gain a substantial amount of weight? It's called puberty and he is a world class athlete.

    Take a gander and Michael Jordan in his rookie year, then look at him with the Wizards.
     
  11. Doc Everlast

    Doc Everlast Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Remember Manny isn't the guy who has Memo Heredia on is team.
     
  12. this_and_that

    this_and_that Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Have you heard their reasons for their allegations? It's comical I tell you.
     
  13. Doc Everlast

    Doc Everlast Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I cant believe people still think Margarito had full plaster wraps in every pro fight.Then they said only in his left hand glove it was loaded. ROFL. I recall Margarito taking his gloves of after the Cotto fight. Wouldn't that be the last thing to do if you had a full load of cement in your gloves? lol Its amazing how naïve some people are. Piece of **** Shane Mosley fought more than half his career roided up and he didn't serve 1 day of suspension. Insane!!!!
     
  14. RSBonos

    RSBonos Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Floyd is the one who made sure to court order that the results of his previous tests be hidden.

    Pac is just as dirty as all the rest. Welcome to professional sports. The funny thing is that all these people on a crusade to discredit one fighter won't come to terms that their heroes are also on PEDs. Better to stay ignorant and happy.
     
  15. Doc Everlast

    Doc Everlast Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Legalizing PEDs would end all the drama and nonsense for good. I say do it. Let them shoot whatever they want in their bodys.Bring needles in the ring on fight night in case there man needs a boost. Mix amphetamine pills in the water bottles like Panama Lewis used to do. Fock it!!!