Is it really irrational to say Pacman was on PEDs?

i dont box but i do lift weights tho.
if i had to have a blood test before a very heavy important lift i`d underperform, theres no reason to assume pac would be any different as he was being expected to possibly be drug tested the day of the fight.
its a valid excuse if you have a needle phobia..

i said valid i didnt say i beleived it...

i dunno why you all picking on a couple of individuals when the whole of boxing is rife with drug use.

soz to sound patronising but its obvious when theres a debate going on about steroids with no knowledge whatsoever of the subject except using your fave or hated boxer as your argument.

drugs in sport go hand in hand, deal with it.

 

this 2013 ***** alt accounts are endless. atsch

 

Of course not, it's not irrational to suspect anyone, including guys that supposedly test year round like Donaire. Or Floyd, who has multiple warning signs, for example:

Or him being buddies with Don Hale, and then giving this hilarious interview. We've all seen this look before, right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lR-W3ACNagc

 

WTF is this? Pac said he didn't even know what a steroid was so which one is worse?:deal

 

He doesn't fly in a steroid dealer to his fights, nor is he a PED crusader. Nobody likes a cheat, but a hypocrite cheat is just disgusting.

 

Who does this?

 

Floyd is buddies with this Don Hale guy, who runs a chain of TRT clinics. And then look at his reaction when asked about TRT

 

Are you an idiot? Pac accepted unlimited random urine testing (which is what has caught most boxers atm) and agreed to blood testing just not close to the fight. Initially it was 30 days before the fight, and then he agreed to 24 days before the fight.

So 24 days before the fight, unlimited urine testing, and immediate testing post fight. Yep, sounds like he's trying to cheat... a cheater would surely agree to those things and not someone who is on record, years before claiming the blood test close to fight was responsible for his loss to Morales.

And op still hasnt answered what drug gives you a chin...the experts sure dont know but op does.

 

Since random testing has began, pretty much all of them was caught via urine testing and not blood testing.

If he/an athlete is gonna juice, its for longterm effect, not on a 24 day window whereby it has to be cleared by fight night. ie a bodybuilder would juice for 10 months a year and then cool down 1-2 months before the comp to get it out their system. You are suggesting that Pac will juice in that 24 day window, risking everything, and hope it clears by fight night. In fact, the whole system of getting randomly tested during training camp is flawed to begin with, most of the cheating goes on throughout the year hence why olympics has 360 days random testing. The issue has never been about how close to comp is the athlete cheating, its weather he has cheated at all in his professional career, that means year round, and testing 24 days vs 30 days will accomplish all the same.

And so what if the damage is already done? The point is it acts as deterrence. You think Pac is gonna juice, accept post fight test, and then post fight be like haha caught me, too late, damage done. The guy is trying to be president of his country ffs. Getting caught would risk far more than he could gain from a 20 day juicing window.

 

:deal

 

Pacquiao agreed up to 7 days before the fight. He had also agreed to full testing including blood immediately after the fight since day one. This is more than enough.

 

So what is this drug that hardens ones chin, please educate Victor Conte as he is unaware.

You guys show how absolutely clueless you are of what PED's can do, if you even knew a little bit you would at least base your arguments on something mildly logical.

 

Get over what? He could have been, I'm just arguing facts here, and the fact is you certainly are a moron...