Is Roberto Duran the greatest boxer since Sugar Ray Robinson?

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  1. Vano-Irons

    Vano-Irons Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    As I'm the only one in the office today, I'm having a 'Duran Day'. First up was one of my favourite Duran performances against Carlos Palamino. He really was punch perfect that fight IMO, winning pretty much every round.

    Next up will be Ray Lampkin, The De Jesus trilogy, and Pipino Cuevas :happy
     
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  2. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    Watch the Bizzaro fight, Vano.
     
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  3. Vano-Irons

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    You know what Slip, ive never seen that all the way through, only the last round. Lou really shouldnt have been allowed to carry on after the first KD, but that 1-2 Duran landed to end it was brutally beautiful
     
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  4. Flea Man

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    Watch him dissect Guts.
     
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  5. pathmanc1986

    pathmanc1986 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I LOVE that beatdown. Time in his career when he was considered done and a loss to Cuevas would have turned him into an 'opponent' - an atg and still a good fighter but an opponent nonethless. then this happened

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhP6kcz9UXE[/ame]

    an ITV fight?
     
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  6. pathmanc1986

    pathmanc1986 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    the right hand on .52 until the knockdown at 1.09 is one of my favourite attacking sequences of all time. inside work, outside, countering, body
     
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  7. Vano-Irons

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    Cheers Flea :good

    Path - it was a superb performance just when he needed to produce one. But that is what frustrates me about Duran. Even when he was past his best by a long way, he could still produce something like that, yet he was incredibly inconsistant, losing to guys who had no business being in the ring with him.

    It just adds to the legacy i suppose
     
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  8. pathmanc1986

    pathmanc1986 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    adds for some and takes away for others. durans lightweight career was enough to solidify him as a great imo, so anything post leonard was a bonus i suppose. some will argue that his losing to people he shouldnt have post 135 takes away from his legend, but i think it shows his greatness even more because everytime he needed a good performance he turned one on. like he was fighting for paychecks and once every so often he thought i fancy a bita this - and then beat someone - cuevas, moore, barkley and the hugely impressive yet overlooked loss to hagler
     
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  9. Vano-Irons

    Vano-Irons Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    I completely agree with all of this, particularly the bit in bold.

    His Lightweight run was extremely impressive, and he moved up, beat up sugar ray, and then it was almost like he said to himself 'that's it, ive proved my greatness now'. After that, just when people started doubting him again, he'd turn in an awesome performance just to say 'ooh, remember me'.
     
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  10. Flea Man

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    He beat Marcel pre-135 as well. Incredible win, even though the stoppage was pitiful.
     
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  11. TAC602

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    :lol:

    In some ways, I wish Roberto had retired after the first Leonard fight. What happened after a fighter has achieved and arrived at top echelon greatness shouldn't matter, but for some it does and Duran put plenty of blemishes on his record after 1980. He would've left 72-1 (56) with a decade of dominance at lightweight and superb wins over Leonard and Palomino at 147 and his lone loss avenged twice by stoppage in World title fights. That said, I can't imagine not having the Moore and Barkley fights. True magic. The electricity in those crowds those nights make it euphoric.
     
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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lM9ivIVyhEE&feature=youtube_gdata_player"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lM9ivIVyhEE&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/ame]

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRiURENunq4&feature=youtube_gdata_player"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRiURENunq4&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/ame]
     
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  13. tommythomas3

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    If Duran retired, he would have been top 15-20 in general. Now he is top 5-10 in general. If he did not beat bigger men, we were robbed of the Barkley fight, and we saw Duran as just a lightweight. This man was abnormally ABNORMALLY strong!
     
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  14. Gravy

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    He was very good, Calzaghe ranks much higher tho.
     
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  15. rossco666

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    Yes.

    Duran had the lot.
     
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