Fred Fulton was a poor man's Wlad and Langford couldn't solve that riddle. I don't see Sam, P4P great that he is, having much of a chance vs Wlad at all.
if being superheavy is an advantage, then why does he run from mediocre midgets that he faces and wrestle with them hanging on for dear life? wlad acts like HEs the midget fighting a giant!
Which one of these midgets beat him? When did the ref of any of these fights threaten to disqualify him? Have you ever seen Lennox Lewis fight?
who said the crap midgets beat him? why are you asking a question about a view that's not been expressed? what desperation drives you to pretend someone made a post and then ask them why they made that post?
Jack Johnson himself even drew the colour line. That was the way of the time back then. Tunny dominated Jack while boxing on his bike and got stomped in a trade off. Wlad isn't boxing anybody off the backfoot.
I am expanding on your point that Waldo ran from midgets. The fact remains he beat all those midgets because there is a safe blueprint for doing so when you are a strong as ****, athletic superheavy. Lennox finished the book on it, Ali often followed it, Bonecrusher even took a page or two. There is no desperation in my life, only glory at this time. Thanks for your concern, tho.
Johnson actually was able to beat the best colored fighters many times over before he drew that line. Dempsey got his ribs broken trying to beat a relative ham and egger in the colored ranks and avoided his best and black challenger for almost a decade. "Tunny" won damn near every round against Dempsey and gave him a frightful beating in the second fight. He was clearly Dempsey's master. Wlad has outboxed his opponents in 61 fights so far, at the top level without defeat for the past 9 years. Without an exhaustive review of his mind numbing efforts of domination, I am assuming he was on the back foot on more than one occasion.
Jack Dempsey wipes the floor with Klitschko. Once the fight begins and Dempsey swarms, Vlad is on the back foot and the fight is well and truly over :good
The year before he was knocking out Harry Wills and shortly after Fulton KO'd him he was beating Jeanette and knocking out Norfolk. Past prime, I'd buy, but that doesn't sound like something a small, shot heavyweight could pull off. He had more in the tank than you're giving him credit for here. Sam certainly wasn't at his peak, but although Fulton could crack with the best of them, he wasn't as good as Wlad, either. Sam's lack of success in that fight doesn't bode well for his chances against Wlad. I've got nothing but respect for Langford and his P4P accomplishments are insane, but I can't ignore Sam's real struggles against a fighter who was practically Wlad Lite when thinking of how he'd do vs the real Wlad. I don't see Langford winning more than 2 rounds. Wlad's literally one of the worst style matchups you could draw up for him because he's a big, skilled fighter who won't give up his size advantage to give Sam scoring opportunities.
Not sure I agree with that one Bollox. I don't think a 1923 Dempsey at 195 could contend with a 2000+ 245 pound Klit. But here I go again and no one seems to want to weigh in on this, it is EXTREMLY difficult to compare boxers from different eras! A 1923 Klit is different than a 2000 Dempsey! Stop the &^%$# nonsensical comparisons! Perhaps a Frazier-Rock pvp would warrant some consideration but, other than that, forget it.
What does ATG mean? That you beat a 37 year old dreadnaught who hadn't fought any meaningful rounds in 4 years? That you were pole axed by a 5-10 180 pounder on a giant losing streak? That you avoided your best challengers for 7 years? That you were taken to school by a lightheavy champ who similarly coddled? If that's all it takes then Gerry Cooney is this so called ATG.
When comparing them from vastly different eras I always have them meet in somewhere the middle time wise. Dempsey would have been bigger and better trained in say 1965 and Vlad would be smaller and not have access to the training and sports science he has today :good