Nonito Donaire vs. Vic Darchinyan II - November 9th

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  1. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Oh boy! I need to earn some v-cash to go all in on that one.

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  2. Rumsfeld

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    The flip-side probably holds far greater truth with me. To take it a step further, I believe it will take an AMAZING effort from Darchinyan to pull it off.

    I would love to see Vic win, agree that he is extremely dangerous, and believe that Darchinyan has been motivated for this one since before his head was cleared after Donaire clipped him. But Vic started horrifically bad in that one, and appeared slow in almost every way imaginable.

    I'm picking Vic by KO myself, but I think it's a long shot. A really long shot. Odds-makers seem to have it just about right, going by what IB posted.

    WAR DARCHINYAN!

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  3. Mountain

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    6/1 odds are about right. Darchinyan is no bum.
     
  4. Rumsfeld

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    See my previous post.

    If you still think I even remotely regard Darhinyan as a "bum", let me know.

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  5. Mountain

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    Ok, my bad. Darchinyan has a chance, no doubt about it.
     
  6. RJJFan

    RJJFan Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    After Donaire KO's Vic:

    "Vic was a bum"
     
  7. Mountain

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    Yeah people wont give Donaire the credit he deserves.
     
  8. PIPO23

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    Why? Rigo is a counter puncher. You try and mix it up in there with

    Rungundeaux. We'll see how long you last..:yep
     
  9. Mountain

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    Rigondeaux ran all night from Donaire's power, Darchinyan might run some but he's going to try to KO Donare too.
     
  10. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I'm just not sure Donaire gets the knockout again, which the poll shows most anticipating he'll do. :think

    Donaire was in his absolute prime then, and in spite of that was yet to step up and thus little-known outside diehard circles, and Darchinyan had already soundly thrashed his brother Glenn. So it was a perfect storm of Darchinyan being overconfident and giving Donaire an opening for a perfect counter-punch, smack in the middle of his peak years (physically).

    Donaire arguably hasn't kayoed someone that impressively since Montiel. Arce was tailor-made for him and maybe shouldn't have even been competing anymore, having grown at best extremely inconsistent and underwhelming in the ring more often than not. Nishioka fought scared, like Narvaez did, with the only difference being he lacked the stamina and elusiveness to survive like Narvaez. Neither of those were really "OMG how did he do that?!" moments like the Darchinyan, Montiel, Tyson Marquez, or Chango Vargas knockouts.

    Against Rigondeaux, Mathebula, and even as far back as Vazquez Jr., Donaire hasn't looked so hot offensively. His timing with his counter punches is off compared to his prime, and he wastes a lot.

    Darchinyan still has two pluses going for him - power and teak-toughness. Unless he stupidly rushes in and gets caught perfectly on the button like he did in 2007 I just don't see how Donaire is going to replicate the feat.

    I think Donaire is the rightful big favorite here, but a decision seems far likelier to me. :conf
     
  11. Mountain

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    Donaire KO'd Sidorenko who beat Agbeko, he would have KO'd Vazquez if not for his broken hand. He dropped Mathebula in the 4th round and broke his jaw near the end of the fight. He TKO'd Nishioka and then brutally KO'd Jorge El Travieso Arce in the 3rd round. Vazquez and Mathebula both had huge size advantages over Donaire too.
     
  12. markq

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    He did!? :huh What was Donaire's face and lip running into? Did air hit his eye? The only one running without any clue was Donaire. He looked lost and didn't know how to cut off the ring.
     
  13. Rumsfeld

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    WAR DARCHINYAN!

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  14. Mountain

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    Before the 12th round, Donaire's face was clean. In the 12th he got a thumb in the eye, that's why it hurt so much and the reason he covered it up. In that situation, Angulo quit but Donaire didn't.
     
  15. Rumsfeld

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    Setting aside markq's sarcasm, I still think he makes a valid point. Rigondeaux succeeded in making a superb talent like Donaire look ordinary.
     
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