Arthur Abraham vs. Giovanni De Carolis & Jack Culcay vs. Guido Pitto II RBR

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  1. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Abraham's done at anything close to the top level. Had a heck of a career, but he's through.

    Not quite sure what the point is of the Italian's gameplan. If you're not going to fight to win, what's the point? He knows as well as anyone this style of fight isn't going to win it for him.
     
    Rock0052, Oct 26, 2013
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  2. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    Just checking in.....

    Did Abe give away the first 2-3 rds like he usually does with his earmuffs on.

    Abes gotta learn a new style. His handspeed just has never been good enough to beat solid guys who could take his power or stay away from danger. I think he should move on to a trainer who could teach him to set traps and counter.

    Too bad he's stuck with Sauerland and Uli.........so predictable.
     
    chitownfightfan, Oct 26, 2013
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  3. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Round 10

    De Carolis is getting clocked regularly by the wide body hooks and heavily loaded windmill rights of Abraham. A few light counters on the run by De Carolis, and shoeshines as he leans in to clinch.

    10-9 Abraham

    97-93 Abraham
     
    IntentionalButt, Oct 26, 2013
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  4. T.C.W

    T.C.W Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    to old and been in to many tough fights. For any major changes in his style of fighting.
     
    T.C.W, Oct 26, 2013
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  5. T.C.W

    T.C.W Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    ****ing boring as bat **** this fight.
     
    T.C.W, Oct 26, 2013
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  6. Consu

    Consu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    De Carolis gave the fight away. With his limited tools he still had enough tools to do better than he did.
     
    Consu, Oct 26, 2013
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  7. IntentionalButt

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    Round 11

    De Carolis is covering up and rushing in on Abraham with both arms crossed to slam into Abraham in preventive disruption of Abraham's bombs as they are exiting the chamber. Abraham clubs at him between and during clinches. Ugly, slow round.

    10-9 Abraham

    107-102 Abraham
     
    IntentionalButt, Oct 26, 2013
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  8. Consu

    Consu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Now Carolis is doing his thing! Go forward, land 1-2 and then hold. And again.
     
    Consu, Oct 26, 2013
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  9. IntentionalButt

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    Round 12

    De Carolis is going all-out, taking his offense to Abraham with series of hooks, mostly blocked, keeping Abraham shy. De Carolis is the only man throwing for the first minute-plus. Abraham opens up now with thumping body hooks. De Carolis is circling right on his heels, and knocked into the ropes by a stray jab from Abraham. De Carolis flicks jabs down Abraham's gullet on the outside, dancing away.

    10-9 De Carolis

    116-112 Abraham
     
    IntentionalButt, Oct 26, 2013
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  10. micky

    micky Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He cannot beat Stieglitz surely he has so little left I am not sure he beats anyone in the top 10 anymore with fair judging

    He won this fight no doubt but he is woeful
     
    micky, Oct 26, 2013
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  11. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    I'd be surprised if Abraham landed that many.

    In fairness to AA, he was taking a huge amount of Ward's punches to the gloves. Although the jab was effective at keeping AA off him, Ward wasn't scoring a lot of those punches.

    Froch was shooting straight through the middle and actually scoring with the jab.
     
    Boxed Ears, Oct 26, 2013
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  12. Berliner

    Berliner Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wegner says the right things Abraham just wont do it.
     
    Berliner, Oct 26, 2013
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  13. Chilli

    Chilli spectator Full Member

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    Carolis has to change his name.
     
    Chilli, Oct 26, 2013
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  14. Malden

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    115-113 Abe.
     
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  15. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Official cards:

    120-108
    119-109
    119-109

    UD for Arthur Abraham
     
    IntentionalButt, Oct 26, 2013
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