Who is a Threat to Cain?

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  1. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    So Cain takes out JDS in a solid dominant performance and I don't think anybody is demanding a rematch :dead

    Question is WHO is the greatest potential threat to Cain in your opinion :think :bbb


    I feel DC, but then DC says he is going to LW,,, but then I don't think he will make it successfully and last successfully. That's just me. I feel DC got under rated at HW when he came out saying he is going to LW,,,, we will see, So I personally see DC failing to make a smooth move to LW and I see him as the BEST potential threat to Cain if and when this may or may not happen.

    Yes that Brazilian JJ dude is solid and skilled enough to catch Cain in a quick submission if Cain is not on his game. I just see that dude catching too many shots on the roll and having a hard time sinking a sub into Cain if I had to bet on it.

    JJ I have not bought into his HW hype as of yet.
     
  2. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Josh Barnett and Travis Browne. But I wouldn't favor either of them. I think Cain is too good, tough and athletic for every other person in the division.

    The heavyweight division sucks ass.
     
  3. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    Yeah I didn't say it but it is sucking ass as of late. Yep good fighters but yeah I wouldn't bet on them.
     
  4. Punisher73

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    Current fighters, I don't see anyone doing it unless they get a lucky punch in like JDS did in their first fight. I have watched that over and over and always thought that JDS got lucky with that big old looping overhand right.

    Not to say that there isn't anyone out there, but they aren't in the UFC yet. I think Cain is at the top of his game right now and will stay for a while longer.
     
  5. The Bane

    The Bane Active Member Full Member

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    If Jones can pack on some serious muscle then we have a challenger!
     
  6. Tko4

    Tko4 Left high kick Full Member

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    Cain is athletic, quick, and has stamina for days. His striking is crisp enough to ward off bigger wrestlers, and his wrestling is good enough to take out dominant strikers. The fact he can determine where the fight goes and still has gas in the later rounds will make him tough to beat. The only way he loses is the way he lost to JDS...by getting clipped early in the fight. No one is going to grind him out or win a UD.
     
  7. Bald_Toad

    Bald_Toad Ring Title Full Member

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    nobody currently, will have to wait for some newcomer
     
  8. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    Yes well said. Much is made of JJ at LHW as being one of the best. Overlooked is Cain in natural ways flying under the casual fans radars. His motor or stamina for days as you said, at HW that is such a FACTOR providing your tough and skilled enough to survive. Don't get me wrong I don't have Cain down as all time best HW at this stage as several years of success against a high level would be needed. Thus far I think JDS has already provided that for Cain. Yes it looks THIN right now. But its not as if Cains career has been created from DUCKING the top guys, the opposite all the way. He fights smart and powerful. With cardio for a big guy. He paces himself while fighting at a high pace. He is FAST, no not the FASTEST, however, he is fast plus his timing is great as he is willing to get CLIPPED and prepared to deal with it REALISTICALLY and clip back without creating fear from being clipped. He took this to its EDGE against JDS who thus acted coy for a split second and then unloaded upon Cain with handspeed/distance that is simply seldom EXPERIENCED at such a EXTREME rate. He went out. Did he come back gun shy like Brock Lesner seemed to do? No offense to Brock, he didn't really know how to STRIKE for real for most of his LIFE so its not as much as of a insult as many would perceive. He was gun shy for one reason. He became AWARE for the first time that there were STRIKERs that could strike him harder and faster than he could strike them if he could not immediately bum rush them. When he ran into dudes he could not so easily bum rush he ran into problems. He did what he could to win, he tried to buy time without quiting, that's good. Nevertheless, Cain went the other way, he got even better SPARRING and worked on high output levels of HEAVY SHOTs as per his teams guidences etc.

    Ok enough of my rantings, I still say that JJ does not TRANSLATE to the PERFECT HW that most assume him to become. I could see the current crop of HW's giving him some problems in more than a few points other than just Cain, DC , JDS etc,,, well that's the point, I could see JJ being beaten solid by even a top 10 dude on the right night. Very different game with a skilled tough dude that already knows how to survive heavy punishment.

    Well screw it, I will rant some more, I am not in a hurry currently, let me say this for GOSSIP, DC hates JJ and VICE VERSA, this is being left out for how intense it is EVEN when being hyped as it already has been as a RIVALRY,,,, my feelings is that DC hates JJ for REAL, in a REAL way that is UNDER DC's skin,,, JJ is trying HARD to pretend its NOTHING, the problem is DC has already MARKED JJ for death so to speak,, don't forget im being dramatic, I mean for VICTORY in the cage, RIGHT, so DC has JJ in his sights and I FEEL that this is THE REAL reason he is making such a CRAZY run to get down to LW,,, he simply hates JJ,,, badly,, why ? Because JJ tried to DIS DC in public one time saying DC had a long way to go CONCEALING implying not just in WEIGHT but in EXPERIENCE and SKILL and DC did not like it, they stared at each other and DC was like, "are you going to clarify what your saying dude or leave me hanging?" and JJ was like, "what you know that's the truth, I am the pound for pound champ of the world, be honest with yourself my friend" and then DC just kept staring and JJ looked away and ever since then DC has been looking into JJs eyes trying to REMIND him that even if he has to come down to a weight that will limit him he will do it to beat JJs ass.

    Well that's that way that's fun for me to look at it at the very least.
     
  9. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Cain is very upset prone due to his glass jaw... Don't be surprised if he gets starched again sooner or later.
     
  10. pourya

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    nope
    i dont think so!
     
  11. outtieDrake

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  13. achillesthegreat

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    His chin can be broken (JDS), his punches can be survived (Kongo), even his takedowns can be recovered from (JDS/Kongo). So a lot of fighters are a threat but Cain seems the best mentally. He can accept defeat (JDS1), right a wrong strategy and employ the correct one (JDSII), in addition his stamina must be the mark someone who is committed to training. His waistline suggests that commitment isn't extended to the dinner table.

    The HW division is deep. Can Werdum submit Cain? JDS is the second best but can he beat Overeem? What about the fighters still evolving - Big Foot, Browne etc?
     
  14. TERRYTIBBS

    TERRYTIBBS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think he should try and get jones to fight him then retire at the top what does he have left to prove