Is Froch's power overrated?

yeah okay , go and change your gender again **** sorry i meant agenda

 

I seem to remember Naseem Hamed re-watching Barrera being dropped by Junior Jones time and time again and thinking that is all it takes - could be a big mistake by Froch to focus on that sparring knockdown...

 

you sad disgrace of an axe wound PUNCHDRUNKCUNT
good luck with groves winning , dont stop believing

 

you seem obsessed with froch did he **** your mum or your gran :huh.
good fighters as brave , willing to go in with the best time and time again whilst most being in thier primes taking all top compitetion come and go which i will keep appreciating **** , go and gargle groves **** **** ******:finger

 

i will enjoy the fight hope you do to , watching groves getting the beating his dad never gave him
i will pick this thread back up after the fight ok spunk bubble

 

Froch knocked Taylor out, but Taylor had a bad chin. However, I enjoy watching Froch fight..............

 

I don't remember people having the Froch Johnson fight close.....It wasnt a difficult fight to score and Carl won it easily enough against a teak tuff veteran who rarely gets stopped.

Pascal was a close fight but he won that close but clear in a war as Pascal faded down the stretch. The scorecard were a little wide but Carl always had that bit extra:

• Judge: Predrag Aleksic 116-112
• Judge: Herminio Cuevas Collazo 117-111
• Judge: Tom Kaczmarek 118-110

He beat Kessler 2nd time clearly. Kessler didn't win a round till the 4th of 5th and lost most of the late ones too. Again the score cards all point to a froch win

• Judge: Carlos Sucre 116-112
• Judge: Jean-Francois Toupin 115-113
• Judge: Adalaide Byrd 118-110

Dirrell he probably should have lost but Dirrell did have points deducted and started playing for time again late in the fight - home town decision very probably but looks what hes done since - nothing much

Ward agree he was well beaten.

Mack was stopped with a body shot that he didnt recover from i agree hes not true world class but hes a decent trial horse and carl stopped him emphatically

 

I tell you what this is what makes me laugh about Froch fans, they say that Froch clearly won the rematch with Kessler but say the first fight could have gone either way.

I'm sorry but that is bull ****, Kessler landed the better shots in the rematch but just gave away the first 3 rounds on activity and had a lower activity rate than his peak days. I felt the rematch could have gone either way.

As for the Pascal fight, I re-watched that on youtube recently and Pascal literally beats the crap out of him in the first 5 rounds, he has Froch all over the place at one point Froch was very lucky that he was that badly hurt right at the end of the 5th round otherwise I believe he would have gone down.

Simple as this, had the Kessler rematch been in Denmark under Kessler's promoter Kessler would have got the decision and you could not have called it a robbery. Had the Pascal fight been in Canada Pascal would have got the decision and you could not have called it a robbery. I have no complaints about Froch getting the decision in either of these fights but the margins by which he was given the decisions were a joke as both of the fights could have gone either way.

Basically both of these fights were split decision fights that could have gone either way, as was the Johnson fight, the Ward fight was a clear one sided bout.

You're now posting score cards to from these fights to say that it was one sided in Froch's favour (it wasn't he certainly didn't beat Pascal or Kessler by a 116-112 score) yet at the same time you are complaining about the Johnson decision.

That is backward.

 

Decent puncher but on the elite stage he has become an accumulative puncher and no longer a one punch ko artist. His power keeps you honest, he can hurt you but he can't separate you from your sense early and brutally.

A lot of this has to do with top fighters being a little savvy, always expecting a punch, always ready to defend, always being a risk themselves. If a fighter, like Groves, goes in there and puts their chin on the line then Frochs power should look significantly better.

 

For education, the following have gone the distance with him:

Pascal - never stopped before or since
Dirrell - never stopped legitimately before or since
Kessler - never stopped before or since
Abraham - never stopped before, only a cuts stoppage since
Johnson - stopped once by Hopkins 15 years earlier
Kessler again - still never stopped

Guy has faced some durable men!!!